a really inconvenient post

[mknockaert]

check it out. much better than al's.


http://fora.tv/2009/08/18/A_REALLY_I...uth_Dan_Miller

thanks

[Matt16]

check it out. much better than al's.


http://fora.tv/2009/08/18/A_REALLY_I...uth_Dan_Miller

thanks

Its presented by Chevron... huh? How does that work? Still can't understand people with their heads in the sand denying global warming.

[mknockaert]

yeah, chevron indeed. i wouldn't praise them for it, it all comes down to what they think the right business solutions are.
i can't believe when people still mock al gore when it snows in october, the term changed from global warming to climate change for a reason.

glad to hear someone actually watched this.

[Tmax]

Its presented by Chevron... huh? How does that work? Still can't understand people with their heads in the sand denying global warming.

doesnt global warming and unions go all together? thing of the past if you ask me.

[mknockaert]

i dont get it?

[grumpyguy]

doesnt global warming and unions go all together? thing of the past if you ask me.

And if we drive to far we'll fall of the edge of the earth right?

[4Lo]

And if we drive to far we'll fall of the edge of the earth right?

only on sundays after church.

I think climate change is more the correct term. Just look at the extreme weather we get. This summer's heat wave is an example of that.

[Lone Ranger]

I welcome the day palm trees start to grow north of the border. How's that for a stand on 'global warming'? LR

[desteurm]

I welcome the day palm trees start to grow north of the border. How's that for a stand on 'global warming'? LR

I believe we will experience a cooling cycle as we continue to cut our CO2 emmisions but still emit particles in the air that block the sun's energy from reaching the surface of our planet.

Search: Nova Dimming Sun

...and report back to me here

[mknockaert]

as we continue to cut our co2?

i was under the impression we were increasing

[desteurm]

i was under the impression we were increasing

Watch the movie, it's a different theory but it has merit. Global cooling just like what happens when a volcano erupts or an asteroid impacts the earth, etc. Block the sun out the earth cools but meanwhile we are giving ourselves the impression things are warming because of emissions. Cut out the emissions and you got a cooling planet.

On a global scale I would say CO2 is increasing but in our region I would say most people are cutting back.

[gavman]

Its the main reason I switched to diesel for my trucks and decaf for my cuppa

[mknockaert]

Cut out the emissions and you got a cooling planet.

i believe it is the other way around as one of the audience members mentions at the end. for example, during 9/11 when all air traffic was grounded the temprature rose several degrees due to the lack of co2 in the atmosphere. so if we cut out all our co2 emissions the temprature would rise significantly, which is mentioned during the geo-engineering portion. we would need machines which shoot clouds into the sky in order to block the sun to cool the atmosphere to slow the ice melt since the temprature would rise if we cut out our co2. and we need to slow ice melt (permafrost) or twice the amount of co2 that is in out atmosphere already will be released.

On a global scale I would say CO2 is increasing but in our region I would say most people are cutting back

that statement seems as valid as pissing in the shallow end of a pool and thinking its piss free for those in the deep end.

seems to be an inevitable problem that we have rapidly increased- ice ages happen naturally- and now its only a matter of slowing down the damage we've done so our childrens children have something to look forward to if anything at this rate. regardless of what happens, it should get interesting. buh bye stupid humans

[desteurm]

I don't think you aren't following me. Did you watch the Nova program?

[eyrish]

Like Mr Miller said. It is a complicated issue. The bottom line is that steps will have to be taken to help reverse the effects.

During the question period at the end of the presentation somebody mentioned pollution cooling the earth... from refelecting the suns rays. That is no longer going to be justifiable because climate change has surpassed that.

Personally, I feel that multitudes of options should start to be explored. I have no problem filling my truck using fuels made from algae

Awesome link... thanks for sharing