New project!!!!!! Willys time

[AndrewH]

Well take a look at the new project…

Picked it up yesterday and now the real fun starts. I am not sure if it is a M38 or a CJ2a. I am thinking M38 as the gas filler is not under the driver’s side door. The tub is brand new out of the Philippines and all the other parts are either mint or new.

Plans for this willys are simple, keep it light and keep it cheap. Running gear wise I m thinking Toyota axles, dual Toyota cases, w56 and either a VW turbo diesel or a Toyota 2lt diesel.

Now I have two questions,
How can I remove the light surface rust that has appeared on the somewhat freshly sandblasted fenders/hood (hoping for a product rather then wire wheel)?

Should I bother replacing the frame with a YJ frame or does this one like it will hold up. It is totally solid throughout so I am thinking I can get away with it. What do you guys think?

Lastly I have loads of parts for sale including a totally rebuilt willys motor (you can see the bored over cylinders with new pistons). The guy told me his dad put 1700 into the motor before he passed away.

[AndrewH]

a few more

[AndrewH]

now the motor!!!!!


my shopping list includes:

- yj springs
- toyota running gear
- old beater tires so I can role it around.

[thedjjack]

What you doing with the tranny and model 18?

maybe interested and what rear axle need parts for a dana53.

here is my build: http://bb.bc4x4.com/showthread.php?t=123204

Cheers

David
give me a PM or djjack@yahoo.ca

[Davel]

Cool man, what trackwidth/wheelbase are you looking to end up with?

[Wil]

Jeezus Andrew you never cease to amaze me with your ability to find "stuff"! There are 2 worn out 33" boggers at the shop if you need them, 15 bucks each (they aren't mine).

[Owlman]

honestly unless your going for an old school resto look, i'd ditch the frame and build a new out of HSS.

things are so much easier to mount when you have nice flat parallel surfaces to hang stuff off of.

loads of info on pirate about it.

i made my basic frame in a day, the only thing i would change is if i were to do it again would be to widen out the rear section like modern jeeps, my D300 JUST fits between the rails (only 25.5" inside)

[J20]

cool keep the pics cumin..............

[Dan]

I dont think its worth screwing around with a YJ frame, a YJ frame needs to be both narrowed and shortened to fit under a Willy's.

[JeepinGPW]

Heh, i want the engine & any other drive train parts you don't want.

If you use the original frame, box in the frame by the spring shackles as the frame is weak there. Also move the brake master cyl from under the body or you'll be rebuilding it a couple times a year. I sealed & ran a vent tub on mine to help keep water out.

Can't really make out he pics very well but to ID the body,

Philipino bodies are not historically correct.

M38's are Mil spec CJ3A's & had indents on the pass side below the door opening for shovel & axe .

They didn't have a glove box on the pass side dash as the batteries are in the cowl in front of the 1 piece tall windshield that has the air vent blocked so it can't open.
M38's didn't have tailgates as the spare tire & gas can were mounted on the back of the tub. They also have protruding head lights.

CJ3A, same body as CJ2A but with 1 piece tall windshield that had a air vent in the middle, & they moved the front seats back to give more leg room. They also have a tailgate, but no tool brackets.

CJ2A had tool brackets on the drivers side above rear wheel well opening, tool box under pass seat, no dash glove box. Short 2 piece swing out windshield (same as MB/GPW) & a tail gate.

MB/GPW had tool indents on the drivers side below door opening & a pass side glove box on dash as well as tool boxes sunk into the rear fenders at the rear, no tailgate.
They also had full floating 1 piece rear axles.

Also all CJ'2s had oval drain cut outs on the sides of the body above the step plates.



Your body is a mix/mash as it has a MB/GPW dash glove box, CJ2A/3A tailgate, &
M38 tool indents on pass side.

[Greg82]

I like it. Where did you find it?

[AndrewH]

Heh, i want the engine & any other drive train parts you don't want.

If you use the original frame, box in the frame by the spring shackles as the frame is weak there. Also move the brake master cyl from under the body or you'll be rebuilding it a couple times a year. I sealed & ran a vent tub on mine to help keep water out.

Can't really make out he pics very well but to ID the body,

Philipino bodies are not historically correct.

M38's are Mil spec CJ3A's & had indents on the pass side below the door opening for shovel & axe .

They didn't have a glove box on the pass side dash as the batteries are in the cowl in front of the 1 piece tall windshield that has the air vent blocked so it can't open.
M38's didn't have tailgates as the spare tire & gas can were mounted on the back of the tub. They also have protruding head lights.

CJ3A, same body as CJ2A but with 1 piece tall windshield that had a air vent in the middle, & they moved the front seats back to give more leg room. They also have a tailgate, but no tool brackets.

CJ2A had tool brackets on the drivers side above rear wheel well opening, tool box under pass seat, no dash glove box. Short 2 piece swing out windshield (same as MB/GPW) & a tail gate.

MB/GPW had tool indents on the drivers side below door opening & a pass side glove box on dash as well as tool boxes sunk into the rear fenders at the rear, no tailgate.
They also had full floating 1 piece rear axles.

Also all CJ'2s had oval drain cut outs on the sides of the body above the step plates.



Your body is a mix/mash as it has a MB/GPW dash glove box, CJ2A/3A tailgate, &
M38 tool indents on pass side.

Well just back from Mexico and I have answered all the PM's that were sent about the parts.
It looks like I have a jeep with a variety of body parts but really it will be part toyota in the end so what difference does it make right now. Anyway thanks for all the useful information about the differences in body parts and I will keep the pics coming throughout the build.

thanks Wil, I am getting pretty excited to start on the project. I am going to pass on the tires right now as I am going to try and find some smaller lighter stock SUV tires I will be able to push around and not worry about flat spots too much!!!!!

I will be keeping the stock frame but I will box it and strengthen it throughout. I will most likely extend the front and rear a few inches so that will take care of some of the strength issues.

So anyone interested in any of the parts please PM me and I will get back to you asap, don't be afraid to offer trades as I have a lot of parts that need to be collected.

Andrew

[Owlman]

I will be keeping the stock frame but I will box it and strengthen it throughout. I will most likely extend the front and rear a few inches so that will take care of some of the strength issues.

fair enough, here is a good thread to read through to get some ideas. this guy did a nice job.
willys build

[Greg82]

Check this build out too

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586303

[lars]

- yj springs

I'm pretty sure I've got a full set of YJ springs you can have...as long as you'll be around this summer so I can get you to bend a few more tubes for me. ;-)


...lars