Stoopid Bolt....

Anyone know how to remoe a stripped Torx head bolt? The one thats holding the seatbelt retractor to the body tub, it's a *$%#%$# to get at with vise grips (or any other tool for that matter).


Any Suggestions? http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm36.gif

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High Country Explorers
Red YJ 4" lift
"I hope that was the skidplate"
www.members.home.net/ichris4x4/index

[nikon_jeeper]

some heat and a bolt extractor...

Hardware store should sell them...you drill a hole in the stripped bolt and insert the extractor with a drill and back it out of there. That's what I would think of...

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Phil M. - Kent, WA
95 XJ Sport w/Stuff
"Who cares about a list of crap, can you drive it?"

[Brent]

SAWZALL BABY!!!!!!!

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92 Jeep YJ with 1 inch shackle lift and a 2 inch body lift running 31's

[crazyguy]

hammer a larger bit it, hammer a wide blade type screwdriver in, grind a slot to put a wide blade type screwdriver in, drill hole and use bolt extracter. apply ford precision alignment tool(sledge hammer of minumum 10lb weight) at any opportunity of course http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm4.gif

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-'85 XJ,2dr,4cyl,5spd,31x10.5's,2"lift,onboard air,bla,bla,bla,
-'82 J-10 Project truck, 258 straight 6, 5spd, 30x9.5's
"its not what you drive, or where you drive,
its driving what you have to where you want to go"

[lars]

Originally posted by crazyguy:
hammer a larger bit it

And then weld it in place and turn it. The heat will help to loosen it a lot.


...lars



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[Dan]

I don't know why people always expect screw extractors to work.
Think about it. The bolt head stripped out because the bolt is seized in place. You couldnt remove it with the correct tool so the head stripped out. Now we go and drill a hole in it and insert a backwards threaded screw extracter that has a fraction of the strength that the original bolt head did, you expect that to work?
Its gonna break off guaranteed, and then you're in trouble cause now you've just got a piece of metal harder than any drill bit known to man. Thats a problem.

The real solution is to weld a big nut to the top of the stipped out bolt. But first soak the threads in WD40 three times a day for a week.



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Dan
91 Cherokee, Slightly Wrinkled.
69 Ford, big tires.
72 Datsun 510, old and ugly.

OK. I managed to drill the bolt head off so I can remove the seatbelt retractor. How do I get rid of the remaining stud? (threads are seriously seized)

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High Country Explorers
Red YJ 4" lift
"I hope that was the skidplate"
www.members.home.net/ichris4x4/index

[nikon_jeeper]

Dan, relax...

Why would they make a tool called an extractor in the first place if it didn't work for someone?

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The bolts I've had stick on me came out with an extractor and some heat. Of course I didn't use WD-40...I used either Pyroil or Liquid Wrench (non-flammable variety) instead.

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Phil M. - Kent, WA
95 XJ Sport w/Stuff
"Who cares about a list of crap, can you drive it?"

[Dan]

Oh it does work in some cases, when the bolt threads aren't seized, but this obviously isnt the case.

Cutting torch, the solution to all my problems.

Hey Phil my winch is installed, I'll have pics posted tonight.

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Dan
91 Cherokee, Slightly Wrinkled.
69 Ford, big tires.
72 Datsun 510, old and ugly.

[nikon_jeeper]

Dan, when we wheeling then?

I'm debating taking a week off work and coming up there alone...leaving the gf behind. http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Did that bolt come off, buddy?

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Phil M. - Kent, WA
95 XJ Sport w/Stuff
"Who cares about a list of crap, can you drive it?"

[Dan]

As soon as I get a front diff, I've beat the body back into almost square again, got a t-case together and the exhaust straightened out, but I'm still running around with a 2wd front axle.

Scanning in pics right now of the Damage from the crash, and of my new winch mount.

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Dan
91 Cherokee, Slightly Wrinkled.
69 Ford, big tires.
72 Datsun 510, old and ugly.

I managed to borrow some sweet drill bits from a friend an drilled the SOB out! Now I just need to tap the hole and put it back together again. http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm34.gif

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High Country Explorers
Red YJ 4" lift
"I hope that was the skidplate"
www.members.home.net/ichris4x4/index

[jeepFREAK]

Originally posted by ichris4x4:
I managed to borrow some sweet drill bits from a friend an drilled the SOB out! Now I just need to tap the hole and put it back together again. http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm34.gif



Youre lucky its only your seatbelt. My problem is that I keep breaking my Torx wrenches trying to take out my windshield hinge bolts! I cant heat it up cuz it will wreck the paint. Im not sure if i want to weld!

Erik

[lars]

Originally posted by jeepFREAK:
Youre lucky its only your seatbelt. My problem is that I keep breaking my Torx wrenches trying to take out my windshield hinge bolts! I cant heat it up cuz it will wreck the paint. Im not sure if i want to weld!
Use a Dremel to cut a notch in them and then put a huge screwdriver bit into the notch and use an impact driver (the kind you hit with a hammer) to back it out. Soaking it with penetrating fluid before hand would be a really good idea.

...lars



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[OptBlackNite]

Originally posted by jeepFREAK:
Youre lucky its only your seatbelt. My problem is that I keep breaking my Torx wrenches trying to take out my windshield hinge bolts! I cant heat it up cuz it will wreck the paint. Im not sure if i want to weld!

Erik

Me too! Those bolts are the worst! I couldn't get one bolt out of either side and I broke a few bits just getting that far.

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Play hard + Rest easy
Drive a Jeep--'92 YJ
Option...Black Nite (http://www.geocities.com/optblacknite)

[Dan]

Broke three torx bits trying to remove a set of those windshield bolts to install a light bar. Had to call in the Snap-On guy for a bit that wouldn't break.



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Dan
91 Cherokee, Slightly Wrinkled.
69 Ford, big tires.
72 Datsun 510, old and ugly.

[ipatrick]

i broke five torx bits trying to get my bumper off, finally i just cut the thing off
and now only use three to hold my bumper on.

[SaudiArabianYJ]

ROTFLMAO...............thanks for the laugh.

I have done that before too....I feel your pain. http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm44.gif

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Jason

1988 4Runner SAS Dana44/Dana60 with all the fixings (For Sale)

1994 Wrangler YJ (Stock, but will be rock worthy one day)

[monkey]

after you get the torx heads out, use an impact hammer the kind you hit like he said, you are better off using stainless steel bolts to put you hard ware back on

[need*a*jeep]

Sorry to say but some of you guys are a sad bunch breaking all your bits. First of all a bolt extractor is old school. Craftsman make a new bit to take-out stripped, rusted, seized bolts and screws. And for all you guys that seem to break stuff the bits are garenteded for life along with all their other products.Remeber use a lot of penatrating oil and let it soak in first and if worst comes to worst show'em who's boss and (don't blow torch that's old school too) plasma the sucker http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm11.gif

[lars]

Originally posted by need*a*jeep:
Sorry to say but some of you guys are a sad bunch breaking all your bits. First of all a bolt extractor is old school. Craftsman make a new bit to take-out stripped, rusted, seized bolts and screws. And for all you guys that seem to break stuff the bits are garenteded for life along with all their other products.Remeber use a lot of penatrating oil and let it soak in first and if worst comes to worst show'em who's boss and (don't blow torch that's old school too) plasma the sucker

So what's this new bit supposed to look like?

For those of us who don't have a plasma cutter (ie: MOST OF US), welding something to the end of the bolt sometimes helps, too.


...lars

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[creeper]

Originally posted by need*a*jeep:
Sorry to say but some of you guys are a sad bunch breaking all your bits. First of all a bolt extractor is old school. Craftsman make a new bit to take-out stripped, rusted, seized bolts and screws. And for all you guys that seem to break stuff the bits are garenteded for life along with all their other products.Remeber use a lot of penatrating oil and let it soak in first and if worst comes to worst show'em who's boss and (don't blow torch that's old school too) plasma the sucker http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm11.gif

i work for sears auto and i usually get to see or try new things before there on the shelve. but i have yet to see that. which hardware store did you get it from? i'd like to know. then i could give them hell for not giving me one. also lars is right not everyone has a plasma cutter. some still use a torch, it does the job.

steve
westcoast rockhuggers offroad club

[lars]

Originally posted by creeper:
i work for sears auto and i usually get to see or try new things before there on the shelve. but i have yet to see that. which hardware store did you get it from? i'd like to know.

I've only seen two types, both require drilling:
- Tapered, reverse-threaded bit. Drill a hole in the bolt and then thread this thing into it. The idea being that it tightens its grip as you try to loosen the bolt.
- Fluted. Hammer this into a hole drilled in the bolt. The flutes in this hardened bit should bite into the bolt. Then slip a special collar onto the fluted bit and try to turn it with a wrench.

Then I've seen using a torch and then holding a candle to it. The heat should suck the melting wax into the thread and unseize it.

And then there's welding. Weld another bolt or steel rod to the head. The heat from the welding should break the seizure. You also end up with something you can grab on to in an attempt to turn the bolt.

With some bolts, you can use a Dremel to cut a slot into the bolt and then use an impact driver with a huge slot bit to back out the bolt.

But since these are all old school, let's see this new bit. ;-)

...lars


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[creeper]

lars,

when i'm at work or at home i use the weld method. works good. if you see this craftsman tool let me know and give me a email at www.rockhuggers@home.com. (http://www.rockhuggers@home.com.)

thanks

steve
westcoast rockhuggers offroad club

[need*a*jeep]

yeah well i figured most people don't own a plama cutter but you'd all like one right? As for the bits to remove the screw and what ever a saw them on a add on t.v w/Bob Vila so most likely it was for the States but they are out there. http://www.bc4x4.com/ubb/smilies/cwm11.gif