Gold Panning

[rogasm]

Not too sure if anyone does this but i remember going on a few occasions with my dad and having a little bit of success kinda fun times and i thought id take the girlfriend after all the silty mucky water goes away. what are some good rivers to try?...near hope/coquihala

[chopper 1]

the Thompson river Skull flats about a half mile out of Spences Bridge i have alot of luck in the summer when she is low good luck and a great place to fly fish

[rogasm]

cool thanks...any other suggestions?

[Rob H]

So can you pan for gold just any where? Do people have ‘claim’ sites that restrict your access?

Rob

[blazerguy77]

recreational panning is only allowed in a few places like the sand bar in hope .you need to get a free miners license,then u can get a placer claim...cheap like 42.00 for 21 hectares.some prospectors can get real fussy if your claim jumpin!!!make sure u check the rules i know i'll get pissed if i find anyone pannin on my claims.

[blazerguy77]

here found the other sites u can pan at with no worries:: Princeton - You can pan for real gold where the Similkameen and Tulameen rivers meet behind the information office in Princeton. (You can get your gold panning equipment at Princeton Outdoor Supply: 250.295.0450)

Hope - Coquihalla River meets the Fraser River and Kanaka Creek flowing into the Coquihalla River.
(You can purchase your gold panning equipment at The Lucky Prospector in Hope)

Yale - Across from the Museum on the Fraser River.
(You can get your gold panning equipment from Barry's Trading Post)

Quesnel - The public is allowed to pan for gold on the Fraser River. Please see the Visitor's Office for the exact location.

Lytton - Panning for gold is allowed where the Thompson River and the Fraser River meet (on the town side).

Coalmont, Granite City - See Granite City where cowboy Johnny Chance struck it rich with gold and platinum.

Lillooet - Where the Cayoosh Creek meets the Fraser River, or also at the B.C. Hydro Seton Lake campground.

Spences Bridge - Pan for gold at the camping area on the East Side of Spences Bridge across from the old Petro Canada gas station.

Kamploops - Tranquille Creek is located 15 minutes away from the down town area for recreational gold panning only.
For your gold panning supplies or directions please contact Bob Crowther at the Coins & Rock Shop on 677 Seymour Street, Kamploops. Phone (250)372-1377.

Recreational Panning on Vancouver Island is allowed anywhere except on Indian Reserves, Parks, Private property, or claims that have been staked by miners. The only way to pan on these claims is with written or verbal permission. To find out about these claims, you have to contact the Gold Commissioner's office, or Mineral Titles Branch in your area.
Alberni - 250.724.9200

[rogasm]

that was extremely helpful thanks

[Hawkfyre]

You can even go the Chilliwack River and try your luck, as you'll get flakes and lots of garnet there. You just know how to read the river and then pan at those corners, and if you've panned before using a good panning technique, you'll get some at the Chilliwack =)

[Iron Glove]

Tulameen River right behind our Tulameen cabin.
I fly fish, the wife pans and the dog runs back and forth between us. :p

[230]

From what i have read if you are a recreational panner you can pan anywhere.When you get your miners license you can't go on anothers claim.

i could be wrong but thats what my book says.

[jeeper]

From what i have read if you are a recreational panner you can pan anywhere.When you get your miners license you can't go on anothers claim.

i could be wrong but thats what my book says.


I was talking with the guys at the gold panning booth at the outdoor show yesterday and thats what they were saying as well ! Id like to verify that for sure before taking a chance but thats not the first time Ive heard that .

That was panning only not sluice boxing !

Bruce

[canucksafari]

I'd recommend Princeton on any street on a hill when the snow is melting and water is pushing all the gravel and sand down the side of the street. I always got a few flakes (and some nice agates) in every pan when I was a kid and bored.

Where ever you go, I recommend you check to make sure it is not a working claim. Some people don't appreciate others panning their claim.

[kootenaycat1]

From what i have read if you are a recreational panner you can pan anywhere.When you get your miners license you can't go on anothers claim.

i could be wrong but thats what my book says.

That's the way I understood it as well. Also, with a FMC, you are allowed to prospect anywhere, even on an existing claim, just not allowed to remove above a certain amount of material - then it would be classified as active mining. I have been known to be wrong before though, best to check with the right authorities! :cwm18:

[500grhollowpoint]

Yup there was a thread on here last year about this. You can recreational pan anywhere you want.

[canucksafari]

Yup there was a thread on here last year about this. You can recreational pan anywhere you want.

I doubt that. I imagine if you were panning an active claim like this

http://www.isami.com/Used/Images/GoldRig01.jpg

that whether the law allowed you there or not wouldn't make any difference to the reaction you'd get from the claim owner operator.

I have seen some coasties try to pan on an active claim before. Nothing broke but they did get a good shower from a high pressure hose. :laugh

Common sense tells you not to F with what someone makes a living with.

[500grhollowpoint]

Well common sense would tell you not to go near equipment...or whatever they were digging up..... but you could pan up the stream or down the stream legally. Don't mean you won't get **** for it.

[LarryBC]

Hi Folks

A member of our Forum brought your posting to my attention... she was quite disturbed at what she was reading, as she invested a great deal of money buying claims here in BC (not from me) and shuddered at the thought of others illeaglly encroaching on her claims. To set the record straight so no one gets into big-time problems with people who do have mineral and placer properties, "no one" is allowed to pan or do other work on any area that is covered by a claim. Such is totally off limits. If otherwise, what would be the sense of individuals investing a great deal of money in acquiring and maintaining properties for others to reap the rewards.

I'm afraid whoever these other individuals were (at some gold panning show, etc) ill-advising you. As a "Recreational" enthusiast, you can pan on designated "panning reserves" and, on Crown land that is NOT occupied by a registered claim, yet, the rule there is, pan and shovel only..... no other gear. If you hold a FMC, that then takes you out of the category of being a recreational panner and you are then bound to work your own claim, or prospect on open ground, not mine it, but prospect it for the purpose of qualifying it for potential filing.

The onus rests with the individual to establish whether an area is open or not.... the claim holder is not obligated to post the property, therefore, for the lay person, this can get a little tricky.

One other point to bring focus to is, there are two types of claims..... placer and mineral (hardrock). However, where there is a No Staking of Placer, yet Mineral is allowed, the Mineral title holder then holds all rights (both placer and mineral). A prime example of this is up on the Coquihalla.... we, and others, hold virtually all the properties up there. Personally, my partner and I hold the vast majority of Coquihalla proper, all of Peers Creek, Sowaqua Creek, and Ladner Creek. The balance that covers the old Carolin Mine, and out behind it, extending northward to parallel opposite Yale and beyond, is held by other companies.

The only other solution is to check the mapping on Miner Titles mapping website (both under placer and mineral) and if the ground is covered, seek permission. Rarely though, will that come. And do not get confused as to what may represent "open ground," by assuming privately held ground is open to a rec miner, for you might also find a bees nest at the end of that one.

I would strongly encourage respecting others rights in regard to their mineral properties. For it would be somewhat the same for any individual to walk up to your driveway, and assume because you are not out driving your 4x4, that they can take the liberty of jumping in and driving off with it. Whether a 4x4 or gold, it all adds up to theft.

If any of you folks are interested, in the coming days, I plan on taking a few of my own claims and opening them up for the recreational enthusiast. I do realize how even the thought of panning for gold excites and attracts individuals.... so this is my own little token to help individuals and families have a place to go. You may check for that coming designation on our site's Forum - - The Canadian Prospectors Forum." The website is GPEX.

One of your members also listed all the rec sites, of which anyone may enjoy as well.

Hope this helps straighten things out to where it then offers you folks many more miles of trouble free travelling.


Regards,
Larry
GPEX Explorations

[canucksafari]

Thanks for backing up what I was saying Larry. As for the rest of you "know it alls": :p told you so! :D

[canucksafari]

Thanks for backing up what I was saying Larry. As for the rest of you "know it alls": :p told you so! :D

Oh, and you missed the Princeton street panning open season for this year.

[abby4runner]

Is panning just for fun or can you actually take home enough to bank with a day of recreational panning?

[canucksafari]

Is panning just for fun or can you actually take home enough to bank with a day of recreational panning?

It all depends... but you can be sure that any area which has been known as a producer is all claimed. I'd say its just for fun - unless you get lucky. I never got enough to bother cashing it in but I did keep the few poor man's rubies I'd always get. It takes a lot of flakes to make an ounze of gold.

[500grhollowpoint]

Just because this guy says it does not make it law. You can pan anywhere you want..... Incase you didn't notice, everywhere is claimed...... Morons......

[Tmax]

Just because this guy says it does not make it law. You can pan anywhere you want..... Incase you didn't notice, everywhere is claimed...... Morons......

good to know. for a sec i though you were not allowed to pan anymore.

[gavman]

Buddy of mine pulled just over an ounce on Harrison Lake a couple of weekends ago, gonna hit the spot myself in the next while... Has anyone tried using a metal detector? This is what he is using.

[LarryBC]

Just because this guy says it does not make it law. You can pan anywhere you want..... Incase you didn't notice, everywhere is claimed...... Morons......

Hi guys,

Not to ruffle any fur but to possibly save those folks who don't know the laws a lot of headache, you cannot simply go panning just anywhere you want to. As I tried to impress, there are locations this may be done, but definitely not on another's mineral properties. To sort of sneak out and scoup what you can, is not only theft, but hey, you're taking from another man's paycheque. I've yet to hear tell of any miner ever stealing from some other person's pay cheque.

Yes, recreational panning is permitted but only where stated. Why is it so hard to respect another man's rights? And also for those who wonder, no, you cannot do the same with a detector. The person spoke of, who detected an ounce, just stole over $1,000 Cdn. That's outright Theft. Surely no one here promotes that.

I'm adding a Ministry link and an excerpt there from, for the skeptical:

http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20M%20--/Mineral%20Tenure%20Act%20%20RSBC%201996%20%20c.%20 292/00_96292_01.xml#section9

Recreational hand panning

9 (1) Subject to subsection (2), a person who is not a free miner may hand pan for recreation purposes.
(2) A person must not hand pan on a valid mineral title unless the person receives permission from the recorded holder of the mineral title.

.................................................. .................................................. .................

Yes, most good ground has long since been claimed up, but if a person takes the time to go about it the lawful and ethical way, by spending a little time researching things out, chances are you may find a descent spot on Crown land that you can enjoy an afternoon of panning. Just for information sake, any game warden or Fisheries officer can tag you for anything illegal. Why buy problems and big fines, possibly even have your vehicle seized, over walking outside the law. But the biggest thing is, why willingly steal from another person ? It's just like climbing through someone's window at night and making off with another man's hard earned prizes.

Recreational panning is made available for individuals and families who wish to try their hand at something most enjoyable, and not necessarily an avenue for a person to keep working the same ground in a fashion which it would be viewed as mining.

Bottom line is, for those who labor with understanding things clearly, miners go to a lot and spend a lot of money, in acquiring, maintaining and working their ground, so why is it some others cannot see that and appreciate that. And for good old boys like you folks, who like to roam the backroads, I'm sure no one would like it if a miner got fed up with people stealing from him and sought permission to erect a steel gate across trails you so often enjoy.

In a friendly sort of way, you are urged to play the game like you'd want others to play it with you.

Happy motoring

[500grhollowpoint]

Sure but there is also a law in BC says you have to ring a bell or gong when you are on a bicycle and pass a pedestrian. Also not enforcable. There are no penalties for doing either. Nor does anyone monitor or enforce. Now common sence would tell you not to work where someone else is, but there are hundreds of recreational panners in BC and not really any areas not claimed. Most (99.99%) of panners don't care about claims....

As far as the gates... Put them up all you like. You don't own the land you have claimed.

[canucksafari]

You can pan anywhere you want and you can wheel anywhere you want as well if you are willing to suffer the consequences. Hell, you can cut down any tree you want too. You can even build a camp fire in the middle of a highway. Just because you can do it does make it legal or the ethical thing to do. :finger_1: Attitudes like this is what gets private property owners and loggers and miners to ask that FSRs to be closed.

[lars]

Larry, thanks very much for taking the time to come here and post that information for our readers.

...lars

[LarryBC]

Thank you lars..... you're most welcomed.

I realize it's hard for the average recreational enthusiast to find a spot which could be productive, but respect of other rights and common courtesy goes a long way. And if the numbers are indeed correct, that little guy who represents the 00.01%, being the chap who seeks permission, is the one who oft times gets to enjoy while the other 99.99% stand in bewilderment wondering why. Somehow I think the numbers are wrong, though.

While commenting, you certainly have a wonderful and active site, here..... so good to see that. And my compliments to you for hosting it, for that in itself is a big chore.

All the best to everyone, and safe motoring.

[blazerguy77]

yes thanks larry,thats the way i understood things as well hence why the goverment created the ''recreational panning reserves'' i previously posted.And no the claim owner does not "own" the land but he may be "leasing" the land for up to 10 years which can affect how others use the area{ie gates,postings}

[Goldigger]

Here is a link to all the recreational panning reserves in the province;

http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca/Titles/MineralTitles/Pages/RecreationalPanningReserves.aspx

And here is another link to all the claimed land in the province;

https://www.mtonline.gov.bc.ca/mtov/home.do

You can click on the "Mineral" map or "Placer" map. Then magnify the area you want to check on to see if it has been claimed or is open for recreational hand panning.

I have signs on my claims with contact info if you wish to pan on my claims. Most do not. I haven't turned anyone away yet but I like to meet them and give them some pointers on what I will and will not allow on my claims. Not too much to ask.

I have found groups of people on my claims trying to take things from my claims without permission and it pisses me off.
I take lots of pictures of ANY vehicle or people I see on my claims for future reference and yes I will get the police to charge you with trespass if you are panning on my claims. I know people who set up automatic wildlife cams to take pictures of claimjumpers as well. If I have more trouble I'll put some in as well

I pay good money to aquire my claims which gives ME the exclusive rights to those minerals. I've done research, sampling and assaying. I'm also subject to visits from the claims inspector who can take my claim and my Free Miners licence away if he finds things he doesn't like, even if I did not do it. It sucks but that's the reality for us prospectors.
I may work for weeks digging to bedrock and the last thing I need is for some cherry picker to come and scoop the reward for my hard work.

Bottom line is, if it's claimed, don't pan, it's not yours, it's stealing.

Contrary to a previous post by the "moron" hollowhead, you can't pan just anywhere.
Only on open unclaimed land.

I know a LOT of miners who are now aware of this thread and site and I'm sure there are some people who have claims that some of you have been picking from.
Now they will be even more vigilant and ornery that they see some of the lack of respect some of you show.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Keith

[five-oh]

Although it's only a summary conviction offence, just as are traffic tickets, I guess the government also create laws and penalties just so they cannot be enforced.. :rolleyes:

And I guess the RCMP doesn't have the right to write tickets neither nor do they get paid to enforce the laws of the province :agree: ..

I can assure there are quite a few hollowheads around that gotten a ticket spitting on the sidewalk (http://www.legaltree.ca/node/515 ) and even a few more got one for littering just after they tore up the "spittin on the sidewalk" ticket.

Mineral Tenure Act (http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20M%20--/Mineral%20Tenure%20Act%20%20RSBC%201996%20%20c.%20 292/00_96292_01.xml#section63)

Offence
63 (1) A person commits an offence who does any of the following:

(a) wilfully and without lawful excuse pulls down, defaces, alters or removes a staking or legal post, a legal corner post or other survey monument;

(b) explores for, develops or produces minerals contrary to this Act or the regulations;

(c) knowingly makes a false statement or provides false information under this Act, or in a registration;

(d) offers for sale, or sells, a mineral title for a non-mining usage.

(2) Sections 4 and 5 of the Offence Act do not apply to this Act.

(3) A person who is convicted of an offence is liable to a fine of not more than $25 000 or to imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or to both.

Would have loved to have met Mr. 500grainhollowhead when I was a member.. :)

Cheers...

[gavman]

http://www.canadiantreasureseekers.com/

[500grhollowpoint]

Get a life. Seriosly. I'm gonna pan wherever I feel like it. No one will ever see me. Not because I am hiding, but because no one gives a ****. Even if someone did see me, no one gives a ****. No one cares if I pan around a little bit with my kids. Not like I'm going to do it where there are people....or gold for that matter. Last time I took my kids to mission creek to pan all the park people were there doing some tour. They came down to show the tour group what I was doing. NO ONE CARES! Nor does it ever get enforced. I have a better chance of seeing a sasquach than someone who can actually do something about me doing a little recreational panning.

[500grhollowpoint]

Although it's only a summary conviction offence, just as are traffic tickets, I guess the government also create laws and penalties just so they cannot be enforced.. :rolleyes:

And I guess the RCMP doesn't have the right to write tickets neither nor do they get paid to enforce the laws of the province :agree: ..

I can assure there are quite a few hollowheads around that gotten a ticket spitting on the sidewalk (http://www.legaltree.ca/node/515 ) and even a few more got one for littering just after they tore up the "spittin on the sidewalk" ticket.

Mineral Tenure Act (http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20M%20--/Mineral%20Tenure%20Act%20%20RSBC%201996%20%20c.%20 292/00_96292_01.xml#section63)

Offence
63 (1) A person commits an offence who does any of the following:

(a) wilfully and without lawful excuse pulls down, defaces, alters or removes a staking or legal post, a legal corner post or other survey monument;

(b) explores for, develops or produces minerals contrary to this Act or the regulations;

(c) knowingly makes a false statement or provides false information under this Act, or in a registration;

(d) offers for sale, or sells, a mineral title for a non-mining usage.

(2) Sections 4 and 5 of the Offence Act do not apply to this Act.

(3) A person who is convicted of an offence is liable to a fine of not more than $25 000 or to imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or to both.

Would have loved to have met Mr. 500grainhollowhead when I was a member.. :)

Cheers...

You joined just to post this? lol.....real credible......

[gavman]

Get a life. Seriosly. I'm gonna pan wherever I feel like it. No one will ever see me. Not because I am hiding, but because no one gives a ****. Even if someone did see me, no one gives a ****. No one cares if I pan around a little bit with my kids. Not like I'm going to do it where there are people....or gold for that matter. Last time I took my kids to mission creek to pan all the park people were there doing some tour. They came down to show the tour group what I was doing. NO ONE CARES! Nor does it ever get enforced. I have a better chance of seeing a sasquach than someone who can actually do something about me doing a little recreational panning.

I agree:beer

[canucksafari]

You joined just to post this? lol.....real credible......

Actually he sounds like a qualified person who knows what he's talking about. That's a little more important to most reasonable people than some one who's been around for a long time spouting bad advice. :poke:

[500grhollowpoint]

Well, if you must know, I am also qualified to imply I am a retired police officer on the internet as well. Actually, on some forums I am also qualified to imply I am a doctor. And, like everyone on this forum, I am also qualified to imply I am a mechanic and a suzuki appraiser. I am not, however, qualified to be the grammar police because all those positions were full on this board. ;)

[Goldigger]

You will need that metal detector to find your lug nuts.

Perhaps if you took the time to get permission to pan you would be teaching your kids a real lesson. That there are rules in a civil society.
Instead you teach them that it's OK to steal from someone as long as nobody sees you. What's your address? I just want to poke around your yard, maybe I'll take something I like if no one is watching.
It's not cool if I did that either.

You say no one cares if you pan illegally?
I care.
So do the claim owners you steal from. I'll bet if you actually took the time to find out who's claims you were on, they would most likely say yes. Maybe they'd want to meet you first, but it's the legal and respectful thing to do.

I'll bet you leave piles of garbage in the woods as well.
Maybe some day you will grow up, until then go back to preschool where they can try to teach you to ask permission to use something that isn't yours.

[Tmax]

golddiger with all due respect, you are just cyring way too hard. makes it hareder to buy what you have to say. :violin


yes legally you are right but dont make it sound like every flake of gold found by some kid comes out of your pocket.:poke:

[Goldigger]

Tmax, so, who's pocket does it come out of?
And can I get your address too so I can nickle and dime you by taking a little at a time?
Oh ya, I'll post it on Craiglist and say, just take little bits of his stuff, he doesn't mind. He does it to people all the time.

I'm soooo glad you guys are soooo respectful. LMAO!
Nice "Who gives a ****!" attitude.

:agree::metoo:popcorn

[Tmax]

oh and i forgot to add i had a dream last night that i found a nuget so big, it wouldnt fit in my pan.




by the way for all the so called experts, the biggest nugets in the world have been found recently with metal detectors.

[Tmax]

Tmax, so, who's pocket does it come out of?
And can I get your address too so I can nickle and dime you by taking a little at a time?
Oh ya, I'll post it on Craiglist and say, just take little bits of his stuff, he doesn't mind. He does it to people all the time.

I'm soooo glad you guys are soooo respectful. LMAO!
Nice "Who gives a ****!" attitude.

:agree::metoo:popcorn

so are you trying to say all the minerals in your claim are yours, you put them there and youre just storing them on the land?

[five-oh]

Well, if you must know, I am also qualified to imply I am a retired police officer on the internet as well. Actually, on some forums I am also qualified to imply I am a doctor. And, like everyone on this forum, I am also qualified to imply I am a mechanic and a suzuki appraiser. I am not, however, qualified to be the grammar police because all those positions were full on this board. ;)

**** for brains.. One can assume your passing down your level intelligence to your kids... God :help them and other hollowheads like you..

And yeah I did join so I could see your previous postings and reassure myself that your level of intelligence is that of a redneck that assumes the law is made for those that wish to play dumb.. Once one reads them, the rest is easy.

If you had one ounce of intelligence you would know that in law "Ignorance is no excuse", but then again judging by your postings one can see the you are the type that thinks it's also OK to throw your kids in the back seet of a 4by, hit the backroads, tear down fences, take 500 grain hollowpoint potshots at no trespassing signs, stick a beer in one hand, a smoke between your lips, your head in between your buttcheeks, suck in your beer belly, pound your chest, all the while telling your kids "See kids???.. Dis how is how yas supposd to dew it"..

Oh yeah and when a cop nails you all you can say is "Duuuuuuh.. I didnt no it was aginst duh law" Nobee cares if I take bred offa sumwons tabl widout askin"...

"Doh pleeze ociffer. Gimmee a brek.. Ah gots to lil kidz wutchin. Dis iz not lookin gud."

I'd hammer you with everything freakin summons I could just to show your kids and any other redneck that is there with you what an dumb a$$hole you really are..

[230]

**** for brains.. One can assume your passing down your level intelligence to your kids... :help God them and other hollowheads like you..

And yeah I did join so I could see your previous postings and reassure myself that your level of intelligence is that of a redneck that assumes the law is made for those that wish to play dumb.. Once one reads them, the rest is easy.

If you had one ounce of intelligence you would know that in law "Ignorance is no excuse", but then again judging by your postings one can see the you are the type that thinks it's also OK to throw your kids in the back seet of a 4by, hit the backroads, tear down fences, take 500 grain hollowpoint potshots at no trespassing signs, stick a beer in one hand, a smoke between your lips, your head in between your buttcheeks, suck in your beer belly, pound your chest, all the while telling your kids "Thi is how it's supposed to be done"..

Oy yeah and when a cop nails you all you can say is "Duuuuuuh.. I didnt no it was aginst duh law" Nobee cares if I take bred offa sumwons tabl widout askin"...

"Doh pleeze ociffer. Gimmee a brek.. Ah gots to lil kidz wutchin. Dis iz not lookin gud."

I'd hammer you with everything freakin summons I could just to show your kids and any other redneck that is there with you what an dumb a$$hole you really are..




I was actually starting think you were making sense till you started with the name calling.:shakehead:

[Goldigger]

Tmax, when I aquire a placer or mineral claim I get the rights to the minerals in that area. Hardrock is called a mineral claim and everything attached to bedrock is covered.
A Placer claim contains all the minerals (and any other economically viable stone) that have become loose from the bedrock.
I pay the govt. to have that ownership. I pay hundreds of dollars a year just to keep a claim valid. Then there's the gear and gas and time.
It's nice to have some gold to show for those hundreds.
So yes, every bit counts.
And it doesn't matter if you find it with a metal detector or with a pan or by tripping on it, if it's claimed ground it's theft.

[five-oh]

I was actually starting think you were making sense till you started with the name calling.:shakehead:

Nuff said.. No point in wasting any more bandwidth about this issue.. I just hope I don't catch anyone of you on any of my claims without my permission cuz, y'all will find out "Who Cares"... ;)

Cheers...

[500grhollowpoint]

You know I'm not sure why all the name calling. Sure, before someone quotes it and calls me a hypocrite, I threw out a "Moron" but it wasn't specifically directed at anyone. Now you guys are getting rude. And that whole thing about driving around with my kids and the cigarette and the beer....nevermind. I'm not even going to dignify it with a reply.

I know you guys would not say this stuff to my face. And no, that's not some sort of implied threat. I'm not saying you wouldn't because I'm a big scary monster, (I'm not)or because my dad could beat up your dad, (He couldn't) I just mean that sometimes people say rude things(I'm not excluded from that) over the internet and I geuss I just have enough hope in humanity that I like to think if we ever met we could be civil. And if we disagreed you wouldn't be as rude in person as you are from behind a keyboard.

[Goldigger]

I had already loosley quoted you, "Contrary to a previous post by the "moron" hollowhead, you can't pan just anywhere." LOL!

I wouldn't have used the word unless it had already been used so I took liberty to try to make a point more than insult.

I'm just trying to give the links and correct the DIS-information that is floating around like a turd in a swimming pool on this website. That and to try to show things from a prospector's perspective.

Keith

[Tmax]

so is it fair to say all miners are rude dick heads and we should not sympetize with their problems or respect their rights becuase they are just plain morons or is it just you guys that signed up here to let us know how it is?

[500grhollowpoint]

I had already loosley quoted you, "Contrary to a previous post by the "moron" hollowhead, you can't pan just anywhere." LOL!

I wouldn't have used the word unless it had already been used so I took liberty to try to make a point more than insult.


Keith

Maybe you should re-read some of your posts. Looks to me like you are even name-calling in your post that you are trying to argue you were not rude. Read my post. I wasn't specifically calling anyone a moron.

And lars, if you haven't got bored of all this dribble yet, check the IP of five-oh. I bet it's either golddigger or more likely canucksafari......I'm curious....Isn't 2 usernames an automatic bye-bye?

[five-oh]

Digger..

Don't matter what you say here...

There will always be a few rednecks around that think they are above the law, even if you show the act to them in black and white. Until they are sitting in the screened-in rear seat of a police car while the summons is being written up, they will pound their chests and think they are God's gift to manhood. The second they are out of the cruiser they are going to curse the cop that gave them the summons and then they are going to call the law a stupid one.

They ALWAYS sing another tune when they gotta do the time and/or pay the fine.

Watch the topic of this thread to now shift over to who called who, what...

I called Mr. 500grainhollowpoint an a$$hole and my personal option of him is that I still think he is an a$$hole and he will remain an a$$hole as long as he continues to run off at the mouth that he is above the law.

Just because you don't get caught, or someone doesn't complain, doesn't make it right.

I would really love to see the reaction on his face when somebody steps on his property, picks up something of monetary value and then walks away with it... I wonder how hard he will pound his chests then.. :) Bet ya 10 to 1 he will scream bloody murder and the FIRST PERSON HE CALLS WILL BE A COP... LOLOLOL... But then again, he needs a 500 grain hollowpoint to protect himself.. ;););)...

What you 'fraid of puppy???...

[five-oh]

And lars, if you haven't got bored of all this dribble yet, check the IP of five-oh. I bet it's either golddigger or more likely canucksafari......I'm curious....Isn't 2 usernames an automatic bye-bye?

Wrong again puppy..

I'm on one side of the country and digger is on the other. I may not live in B.C. but that doesn't mean I cannot own property there, have family that lives out there, or own a claim for that matter..

But that again, you should know that cuz you know it all and are above the law. ;););)

You will remain an a$$hole in my books until you begin to respect someone else's rights and property, which by your own admittance, you don't. I think what irritates me the most is the fact that you go around attempting to convince people that it is OK to do what you do, when it's not... A$$hole!!!!.

[Goldigger]

Talk about rude dickheads! There seem to be plenty here already.

500, it was YOU who called everyone, including me, a moron while telling lies.

Now that you know you have been caught stealing and lying and say you will continue to do so you cry about name calling.
Have another beer and hit the backroads.

I notice that you haven't supplied your addresses yet which means that you don't want any of YOUR property to go missing do you? So why would you steal from others?
THAT is the issue, not name calling. Stick to the issue and I'll do the same.

Keith

[lars]

Geez, am I going to have to go through every single post and remove the personal insults, now? C'mon guys. Try to keep it civil.

...lars

[Tmax]

Wrong again puppy..

I'm on one side of the country and digger is on the other. I may not live in B.C. but that doesn't mean I cannot own property there, have family that lives out there, or own a claim for that matter..

But that again, you should know that cuz you know it all and are above the law. ;););)

You will remain an a$$hole in my books until you begin to respect someone else's rights and property, which by your own admittance, you don't. I think what irritates me the most is the fact that you go around attempting to convince people that it is OK to do what you do, when it's not... A$$hole!!!!.


Talk about rude dickheads! There seem to be plenty here already.

500, it was YOU who called everyone, including me, a moron while telling lies.

Now that you know you have been caught stealing and lying and say you will continue to do so you cry about name calling.
Have another beer and hit the backroads.

I notice that you haven't supplied your addresses yet which means that you don't want any of YOUR property to go missing do you? So why would you steal from others?
THAT is the issue, not name calling. Stick to the issue and I'll do the same.

Keith


you guys just proved my point and you know youre doing bad when you make hollow point look good. if i were you, i would be much more political if you are actually trying to get your way or show right from wrong. its just too bad. this forum could have possibly learned quite a bit from you but now i dont think anyone cares what you have to say exept canaucksfari. :poke::violin


after seeing the above posts, i have no problem calling your bs. maybe you guys just spend too much time in the bush and have forgoten how to communicate efectively. i suggest you go read your own posts and look were you went wrong for the next time you need to educate others.

[500grhollowpoint]

Wow you guys sure get worked up. You sure are making intelligent, sensible posts and making yourselves look smart. You might be on the wrong site to start redneck bashing. And yes, I am a redneck. But that does not mean I drink, smoke, shoot signs, have a southern accent or bad grammar. I don't ever recall pounding my chest. Not even sure what that means. I have a university education. My kids go to catholic school and are better behaved than yours. Just because I am a redneck does not make me stupid. I think you are getting rednecks confused with the trailer park boys.

[500grhollowpoint]

Geez, am I going to have to go through every single post and remove the personal insults, now? C'mon guys. Try to keep it civil.

...lars

Just leave it. It really illustrates the character of the individuals making the insults.

[five-oh]

Watch the topic of this thread to now shift over to who called who, what...


I told you he would try to shift the focus of this thread.. LOLOLOL


You can recreational pan anywhere you want.
http://bb.bc4x4.com/showpost.php?p=899924&postcount=14


Well common sense would tell you not to go near equipment...or whatever they were digging up..... but you could pan up the stream or down the stream legally. Don't mean you won't get **** for it.
http://bb.bc4x4.com/showpost.php?p=900149&postcount=16


Just because this guy says it does not make it law. You can pan anywhere you want..... <- This comment is highly indicative of the the level of intelligence that this supposed university educated person has even after exerpts and links to of the Mineral Tenure Act were posted on this thread. God :help us if this is what they teach kids in school now a days :( ) Incase you didn't notice, everywhere is claimed...... Morons......
http://bb.bc4x4.com/showpost.php?p=915498&postcount=22


Sure but there is also a law in BC says you have to ring a bell or gong when you are on a bicycle and pass a pedestrian. Also not enforcable. There are no penalties for doing either. Nor does anyone monitor or enforce. Now common sence would tell you not to work where someone else is, but there are hundreds of recreational panners in BC and not really any areas not claimed. Most (99.99%) of panners don't care about claims....

As far as the gates... Put them up all you like. You don't own the land you have claimed.


Get a life. Seriosly. I'm gonna pan wherever I feel like it. No one will ever see me. Not because I am hiding, but because no one gives a ****. Even if someone did see me, no one gives a ****. No one cares if I pan around a little bit with my kids. Not like I'm going to do it where there are people....or gold for that matter. Last time I took my kids to mission creek to pan all the park people were there doing some tour. They came down to show the tour group what I was doing. NO ONE CARES! Nor does it ever get enforced. I have a better chance of seeing a sasquach than someone who can actually do something about me doing a little recreational panning.
http://bb.bc4x4.com/showpost.php?p=916472&postcount=34


NO ONE CARES! Nor does it ever get enforced.

You just haven't been caught yet...

It's the stupid statements that come out of this supposedly university educated :):):):):) individuals mouth that can rile a person that is trying to make a living from his/her claims...

[canucksafari]

And lars, if you haven't got bored of all this dribble yet, check the IP of five-oh. I bet it's either golddigger or more likely canucksafari......I'm curious....Isn't 2 usernames an automatic bye-bye?


you guys just proved my point and you know youre doing bad when you make hollow point look good. ... but now i dont think anyone cares what you have to say exept canaucksfari. :poke::violin


:popcorn:popcorn:popcorn ...You boys never let me down on creating entertainment. :p

[500grhollowpoint]

Wow five-oh. You put some time into that one. You don't exactly bring an intelligent argument. I don't think I'm the one saying who said what. Because I don't care. Just keep on insulting me and trying to make me look bad. It looks good on you.

[five-oh]

:omg: ...and you say you got a university education???... You must of flunked out before the the end of the first semester cuz you got total :spam for brains..

Someone could hit you in the head with a freaken 2x4 and you still wouldn't get it... Unfrickenbelievable... :rolleyes:

[230]

Is it time to go panning yet?:anyone:

[Goldigger]

Is it time to go panning yet?:anyone:

Yup, I'll be out camping and working my claims this weekend. Water should be down a bit so I can try out my drysuit.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/badgerwaxer/2007_0701Image0006.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/badgerwaxer/twobitsofgold.jpg

[500grhollowpoint]

:omg: ...and you say you got a university education???... You must of flunked out before the the end of the first semester cuz you got total :spam for brains..

Someone could hit you in the head with a freaken 2x4 and you still wouldn't get it... Unfrickenbelievable... :rolleyes:

lol....uh....whut? Are you still ranting?

[LarryBC]

Oh please forgive 500 (and close followers), my sincerest apologies.
I was very wrong in feeling I could wage a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.

[500grhollowpoint]

Boy, that's original. Where do you come up with these? Andy Capp? Garfield?


Was hardly a battle of wits. More like me listening to you guys hurl insults. This doesen't even qualify as an argument. I told you my position and then you just insulted me for a few pages. If you are going to insult people, atleast make it witty or funny. You guys are none of those, lol.

[Goldigger]

OK then, here's a vid of Tmax and hollow. Enjoy:popcorn


http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=CA&hl=en&v=thWeXrjFLtM&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b

[230]

:shakehead:

[500grhollowpoint]

Georgia fried chicken...lol.... See now we are getting interesting. BTW NSFW

[hardcoreoffrd]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Tunnel Walker]

Occurrence and distirbution of Platium Group Elements in British Columbia, will guide you to some areas that are close by. I've used this report to gather info. that paid off with a few small nuggets in the pan and also nuggets left exposed on bed rock left behind by miners past. :D
http://www.tunnelwalker.webs.com

[Muddy Crik]

sorry guys, my post is not insulting or rude, but my question is.... Im in the backcountry with my boys and some pans n' shovels, and i wanna pan. How do I research, find and contact the claim/owner or access any websites w/o cell reception. Don't tell me I need to spend hours on the computor cross referencing maps and books with active mines and gridmaps of crown land. I have better things to do. Give me an easy way to let claim owners know im (recreationally)panning on their claim, and I'll be happy to do it. Hell, I would even hand all off it over to them (minus a couple of flakes for the boys). I think claim owners should post a claim sign of some kind. If its easy, people will do it (maybe some people.)

[Goldigger]

Well Muddy, Where are you thinking of going? PM me if you wish and I'll try to get you a map of the area and contact info if they have it.

If you go back to page 3, I posted a link to the Mineral Titles page.
Zoom in on the area you are thinking about and see if it's claimed.

I post signs with email at my claims and have been contacted a few times.
If they don't post contact info, then they probably want their claim left alone.
You can also try to contact them by getting the claim # and get ahold of the local mineral titles office.
I know, it can be a hassle. Us miners now have to inform every land owner that we will be entering their land.
This can be next to impossible as the land titles office can't even figure it out.
One fellow has to cross 17 parcels of private land to get to his claim. Technically he has to write or phone 17 times even though it's the same land owner.
More crap from the Liberals.

Anyway, here's a shot of Harrison lake. The pink areas are placer claims.

Cheers

Keith

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/badgerwaxer/harrisonlake.png

[jeeper]

Anyway, here's a shot of Harrison lake. The pink areas are placer claims.

Cheers

Keith

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/badgerwaxer/harrisonlake.png



Why wasnt this pic posted early on in what I loosley call a discussion? It sure looks like lots of areas around there that someone could take a pan and play with thier kids .Maybe theres no gold but I dont think thats the only reason why they would be doing it .


It sure would have been better had those that decided to come over from the gold panning web boards spent a little bit of time in answering the questions instead of all the namecalling . Thats the reason this thread was started so that people could understand what was right and wrong and avoid trespassing on someones legal claim .

Bruce

[500grhollowpoint]

It's not treaspassing. You can do whatever you want on someone's claim. They don't own the land.

[gavman]

Looks like my buddy wasn't even on any of the claims according to that map, is it possible there are more claims than shown on the map? or is that just map old...

And how do you register a claim:cwm18:

[Goldigger]

Bruce, ALL the links and information, including the rules and regs were posted earlier in the thread. All the questions WERE answered, correcting a LOT of misinformed ideas as to what open ground is and what is allowed on active claims. The picture I posted is just a small snapshot of an area of the province.

Yes, if a claim is on Crown land, (unless it's a placer lease operation) anyone can walk around on it. They just don't have the right to take gold, minerals or other rocks, sand, gravel etc. from a placer or mineral claim.

I'll post the same area with the mineral or "hardrock" claims.
You can see that there are still lots of spots to pan without going on anyone's claim. And if it's panning and not gold stealing then have at ALL that open ground.
I have found that almost ANY creek will have some gold in it, maybe just a flake or two but if that's all the thrill you want..... open ground please.

BTW: the map is current to 11 am yesterday I believe. It's an online staking system and forfeited or expired claims get kicked off the system at that time.

Here's a link to get a BCeID, you need this to use the govt. system, basically a username. Then get a Free Miners number. Takes a few days or weeks and $25/yr. Then login to MTonline and claim what you want that's available. Sure beats cutting a survey line through the bush and putting a tag up on a tree.
https://www.bceid.ca/register/

Anyone else have a spot they want looked at? PM me if you wish. I won't tell a soul.:popcorn

Cheers

Keith

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c391/badgerwaxer/harrisonlakeMINERAL.png

[gavman]

So Buddy and I are up to almost 11 ounces in an area NOT included in one of those "Marked" claim areas. We have a spectacular nugget that my son's friend found with our metal detector and I mean a stunner...
So we will register a claim soon but here is the issue. How big an area can you stake as a claim?
We want to insure no one can get in near us legally although I don't mind the rec people tooling around:)
Is there a lawyer service that is trust worthy enough to protect out interests?
This is one time when I am actually thinking of quitting my day job, especially with the price of gold right now:beer_cheers::beer_cheers:

Thanks for any help guys:cwm30:

[expotruck]

Gavman shhhhhhhhhhhhh let me in lol
Since my last post i have dug up some interesting things online i think i have gold fever rofl i will definitely be trying this out this year
Getting my FAC as well i hate bears so much way more than wasps bees anything with wings that you cannot fight but only run from in a flail of screams

[knjeep]

I checked the web sites out the miners posted and couldn't figuer how to look up my area. If a claim is yours and there are people like me (no idea) out with a gold pan I have had on the wall ten years with the kids and I come across a sign that says claim area I would move on unless there was contact info wich I would try.
Now if it is so important then mark em. I also read someone compaired walking into a yard and walking off with something of value lmao 99% of yards/ property are marked and, walking off with something that has always been there, in the middle of nowhere and my dirt bike are two differant things.