BFG MT'S VS BIG O MT'S

[Brent]

I am in the market for new tires and have narrowed it down to these two types BFG MT'S and BIG O MT'S. They are basicly the same price with BFG being a little cheeper. I have heard that BFG makes better tires but dont have "No question asked warranty"


Any comments???

[Chris S]

IMHO go for the BFGs.

It's hard to do a fair comparison when they are on different vehicles, but Toyrantula has the Big Os and it seems to me that when we wheel together I have better traction in thick mud.

[Toyrantula]

Chris does have a bit better traction in the mud........

BUT

I have a no hassle warranty, free replacement down to 1/32" of tread left.

POKE..POKE:p

[Chris S]

Originally posted by Toyrantula
Chris does have a bit better traction in the mud........

BUT

I have a no hassle warranty, free replacement down to 1/32" of tread left.

POKE..POKE:p

I always switch to a new Jeep long before I wear the tread down that far. :clown

[YJ]

I am running Big XT's, and Kami Kazi is running Big AT's. I love my XT's. But the best thing is the warrenty! Kami Kazi ripped open his side wall and Big O replaced it no problem.. Now if that was another brand it would have cost...

Just my .02

[Toyrantula]

Originally posted by Chris S


I always switch to a new Jeep long before I wear the tread down that far. :clown

Heck yeah, no kiddin.

Too bad we didnt have the same bolt pattern. Wonder how each tire would perform on each others vehicle?

Weight versus traction could come into play here. Both trucks should be close weight wise. Your Jeep would be more of a 50/50 bias.

[crazyguy]

how does the big o warrenty work? i've heard little bits of it on here but other than something about free replacement I dont know how it work. free replacement down to 1/32" if its punctured? any limetations?

[Cheeky]

if you get BFG M/t at costco you get the same if not better warrenty than BIG O.
I got my BFG M/T KO's from discount tire cheaper than costco and for a little extra $ i got the road hazard warenty and have 2 tires replaced with no questions asked.
I drive a xj with 31's at 28 psi and they last quite well for a mud tire and if big o's were as good as bfg's you would see a lot more rigs with them on.:cool:

[chris]

You pay for that extra insurance on the big o brand. I would rather have a better tire, and from what I have seen, traction, then the extra warranty. Guess it depends how hard you are on your tires. I have yet to damage a tire beyond repair, and maybe I am lacking trail experience but I rarely see anyone else ripping sidewalls up.

[Brentolsten]

hey dosetn the guy greg with the red toyota use big "0" tires he shoudl have soem good insite on this

[Brent]

hmmm...... warranty or not?? that is the question

[Toyrantula]

Should make that 2/32" tread left to get the warranty. Here is a link to the actuall big o m/t http://www.bigo.com/default.asp?id=268&pagetype=products

And the warranty in full

Big O Tire Warranty
at Big O Tires Stores

LIMITED FREE REPLACEMENT WARRANTY FOR BIG O PASSENGER AND RV LIGHT TRUCK TIRES Every new Big O brand Tire bearing the Big O name with serial number and not marked "blem" and purchased at a franchised Big O Tires store, is warranted against failure due to defects in workmanship, materials and road hazard failure for the life of the original tread (down to 2/32nds of an inches remaining tread).
The following tires are warranted without limitations to time or mileage:
Legacy Tour Plus
Legacy Tour-H
Big Foot AT- All Terrain,Sport Touring and Dual Groove
Big Foot XT
Big Foot MT

Any such tire which becomes unserviceable as per the terms of this warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge (including mounting and balancing), at a franchised Big O Tires store. Should a suitable replacement tire not be available within a reasonable time, the original purchase price including sales tax will be refunded.

Any such tire that becomes unserviceable during the first four years after purchase per the terms of this warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge, (including mounting and balancing) at a franchised Big O Tires store. Thereafter, credit will be granted on a prorated basis until the tire is legally worn out and no longer warranted.

The following tires are warranted for the first three years of service and prorated thereafter:

Aspen passenger
SXP Super Sport
Euro Tour (four year)
Pathmax RT
Big Foot HT

Any such tire that becomes unserviceable during the first three years after purchase per the terms of this warranty will be repaired or replaced free of charge, (including mounting and balancing) at a franchised Big O Tires store. Thereafter, credit will be granted on a prorated basis until the tire is legally worn out and no longer warranted.

GENERAL CONDITIONS AND DEFINITIONS:

PROOF OF PURCHASE REQUIRED
Big O's limited warranties for new Big O brand tires will be honored at any franchised big O Tires store. The failed tire must be returned to a Big O Tires store. This warranty is not transferable. Warranty applies to original purchaser only.

PROPER TIRE REPAIR
All big O tires must be repaired in accordance with Big O's appropriate Tire Repair Policy. An improper repair does not constitute an adjustable condition. Tires that fail as the result of an improper repair are excluded from the warranty.

ROAD HAZARD FAILURE
The term "road hazard failure" includes non-repairable punctures, cuts, impact breaks, bruises and similar injuries.

REPAIRABLE TIRE
A puncture or penetration (not to exceed 1/4" at its widest point) will be repaired as specified under Big O's Tire Repair Policy.

EXCLUSIONS FROM WARRANTY
Those tire which become unserviceable due to accident, fire, theft, chain damage, vandalism, racing, improper balance or alignment (uneven or irregular wear), lack of or improper rotation, improper repair, improper inflation pressure, repairable punctures, overloading, vehicle obstruction and similar types of damage or abuse are excluded from the warranty.

LIFE OF TREAD
"Life of tread" means down to 2/32nds of an inch of remaining tread, at which point the tires are considered worn out and no longer warranted.

LIMITATION OF CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE
The above warranties do not cover consequential damage and any liability is limited to repairing or replacing the tire at a franchised big O Tires store in accordance with the terms set forth above. Some states do not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental or consequential damages, so these limitations may not apply. This warranty provides specific legal rights, and there may be other rights which may vary from state to state.



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[Greg]

Did somebody mention my name? :D

I run 35" Big-O MT's. I've had a few punctures fixed for free (nails and screws). I've had them rebalanced for free. I've had debris removed from the bead for free, twice (airing down and striking deadfall under water will do that!).

I've gotten 6 tires replaced for free. It's a GREAT feeling to hobble into the tire store with a worn out, trail-bruised, chunked, sliced, and grooved tire that's JUST over the legal tread limit, and drive away with a BRAND NEW tire, mounted, balanced, and installed, with a full warranty on it, for free, no deductible or pro-rating.

Yeah, I paid more for my tires than I would have with BFG's, but can you get 10 BFG's for the price of 4, with full usage on them?

DougB is on his third set of Big-O MT's. Paid for one set. That's 12 tires for the price of 4.

I have numerous other friends with Big-O's who have warrantied at least one tire. Brad (who introduced me to the wonderful world of Big-O when he separated his tread from his sidewall, somehow), Jud (who is a crazy bastard and will take his truck anywhere that looks like it might have once been a road), Colin (who is almost as crazy as Jud but has less experience, haha), and the list goes on.

Sidewalling an old, worn-out tire doesn't hurt too much, but sidewalling a 1-day-old BFG can make you cry (right, Barry)? I remember pinching a sidewall between the rim and a rock up on Blue Mtn, and when somebody told me had just put a large hole in the side of the tire, my first thought was "Dang!", followed immediately by "Whoo-hoo, new tire!".

I'm also willing to take my truck into questionable terrain, because I'm not worried about slicing a sidewall or ripping out a section of tread. Really gives you peace of mind, and allows you to concentrate on the task at hand, such as finding the proper line.

The MT's do fine on rocks, mud, dirt, gravel, and pavement. They do "okay" on sand. They could do with the addition of siping for wet pavement, but then, all mud tires would benefit from that. Snow performance depends on the type of snow; I've gone through km's of deep, fresh-fallen snow until it started packing up against my bumper, and stopped my forward progress. I've done the "hard line" on Eagle Ridge in 3-foot-deep snow. http://media-north.com/4wd/er1-10.jpg http://media-north.com/4wd/er1-13.jpg And I've gotten stuck in snow that was only a foot deep, but was over a week old, getting out-distanced by a friend in the same truck but with 33x9.5" BFG AT's and IFS and open diffs (yes, skinnies are way better in snow, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise). Okay, so they're not "perfect".

Quality? Big-O, BFG, and all other LT radial tires that aren't specialized like Swampers are pretty much all the same. They are all "average" tires, nothing fancy, and none are substantially better than the others. Some just have a better warranty.

What more can I say? I'm quite happy with my Big-O's. Unless I'm buying an expensive tire like a Swamper, I'm going to buy Big-O. Why wouldn't I?

Btw, "service" varies from store to store. Talk to people who have bought tires from the store you are planning to buy tires from, before you buy tires from them. I've been to most of the Big-O dealers in the Lower Mainland; my favourite store is the North Van store. Karl there has treated me very well and I'll be heading back shortly to buy another set of 35" MT's as well as a set of probably XT's for another truck.

(Usual disclaimer: not affiliated with Big-O, don't receive any renumeration for this post, etc.)

[Brentolsten]

i thought u knwo a ting or 2 about thows tires.

[RedApe]

Well, I ran the Big O XT's for a year and a half, and was very happy with them. Snow, mud, gravel, powder dust etc, there was never once where I was wishing that I had something else.
Another advantage is the ON road performance. Hit a panic stop from 65KM/h in the rain and stop w/o a skid...? You bet.

IMHO, if your going to buy a tire that you have to drive on the street (as in non-bias, non Swamper), then go with Big O.;)

[wheezy]

I run 35 BFG's and I personally would give my left nut if they would magically turn into swampers,I have had nothing but bead leak (partly because I run 10" alloys),but I dont find that they seat to solid with the thinner sidewall.Personal opinion though.