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Masta_D
December 20th, 2006, 03:09 pm
I just noticed that some canned food companys like chunky and campbells now have a plastic linning inside the whole can, thought it would be bad to find out after you took it off the campfire to eat or not find out at all.
I think they should put a warning on the cans about do not heat up or cook in can!
So yeah Happy hunting~!
Wes Rempel
December 20th, 2006, 07:19 pm
I think they have had those linings for decades.
lars
December 21st, 2006, 09:09 am
I thought this was going to be a safety warning about not throwing cans of tinned food into the fire. Fortunately, it's not, and I can continue with that tradition.
...lars
brian468
December 21st, 2006, 01:13 pm
i`ve never had any problems with chunky soup over the campfire, although i`ve never seen this plastic lining inside the can you speak of.
Valley Rover
December 21st, 2006, 03:22 pm
I thought this was going to be a safety warning about not throwing cans of tinned food into the fire. Fortunately, it's not, and I can continue with that tradition.
...lars
speaking of throwing cans of food on the fire.....burning man comes to mind
huh larry
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Wes Rempel
December 21st, 2006, 06:21 pm
i`ve never had any problems with chunky soup over the campfire, although i`ve never seen this plastic lining inside the can you speak of.
Its a thin lining in the cans. A barrier between the food and the steel. It can melt and become one with the food.
Masta_D
December 22nd, 2006, 03:19 am
Its a thin lining in the cans. A barrier between the food and the steel. It can melt and become one with the food.
Yes thats what I meant to say .. LOL
4Lo
December 24th, 2006, 01:56 pm
Years ago we put a can of corn on the campfire @ Hicks Lake to warm it up. Well everybody forgot about it and it exploded. We had the toyota backed up close to the fire so we could sit on the tailgate and those who were sitting there got doushed with flying burning corn. My cousin got the worst of it. He got some in his eyes not funny but we were all laughing as I am now just thinking about it. We took him over to the water station in the campsite and flushed his eyes with water. He was fine :laugh
robtegelberg
December 25th, 2006, 02:11 am
beans work the best. preferably the ones with the little slice of ham in them.
ive cooked tonnes of food over the fire in cans. I wouldnt be too worried about the liner. At least they arent led cans anymore.
:redneck
rob
Dan
December 26th, 2006, 02:14 am
i`ve never had any problems with chunky soup over the campfire, although i`ve never seen this plastic lining inside the can you speak of.
Yeah it melts into the food after heating the whole can, so you'll never see it :)
Doesnt affect the taste of the food, and goes right through you like any other plastic :D
brian468
December 26th, 2006, 09:55 pm
I had some chunky soup again today and I saw no lining, must be a canuck thing.
Hayes
January 3rd, 2007, 11:30 pm
One of my brothers friends was heating some chunky soup in the can sitting on the exhaust manifold of the boat (dry exhaust) its a common practice. Anyhow nobody told the young guy to punch some holes in the top to let the pressure out.
Opened the can and the contents come blowing out burning his hands and face the other guys where laughing the young guy when running for some water.
I never seen a liner in a can either but then again I'am interested in the food not the can. Its probably best to dump the stuff into a pot anyway you can see if there is anything in the soup you don't want to eat.
HSOK
January 4th, 2007, 05:51 pm
I know the lining you're talking about. Have you actually experienced this happening? I'm fairly certain that it's just the wall of the can, and not the bottom or top.
I also cook for a living, and am fairly certain that you'd be fine up to around 300 degrees farenheit before it'd start melting into the food. That is my experience at least, since we use alot of plastic and even saran wrap when we cook, fun fact, a rubber spatula doesn't melt in a deep fryer. So even the fire itself might get really hot, but as long as you shake the contents around, the soup itself should keep the lining cool enough to not melt.
Maybe I should go grab some soup and do some investigating.
Wes Rempel
January 4th, 2007, 06:12 pm
I also cook for a living, and am fairly certain that you'd be fine up to around 300 degrees farenheit before it'd start melting into the food.
300 F is not that hot. Your burner/fire is much, much hotter than that.
brian468
January 7th, 2007, 03:19 pm
if somebody heats a can of soup to more then 300 degrees they deserve to eat melted plastic anyways.
Kellykins
January 7th, 2007, 05:22 pm
The lining prevents botulism when the can gets dented. And I think Wes is right, it's been there a long time... I guess we know who does the cooking more often in YOUR house!! :p
mud-dog27
February 9th, 2007, 01:52 pm
hmmm and i always though that extra flavourin was just campfire smoke.......:cwm24:.......oh well it aint killed me yet so whatever.....mmmmm campfire :spam
Fozzy
February 25th, 2007, 07:22 pm
I thought this was going to be a safety warning about not throwing cans of tinned food into the fire. Fortunately, it's not, and I can continue with that tradition.
...lars
Stag chille anyone :)
Dan
February 26th, 2007, 03:04 am
And I think Wes is right,
Did you ever think you would say that?
Kellykins
February 26th, 2007, 04:52 am
Did you ever think you would say that?
Now that he hates me? No. :p
lars
February 26th, 2007, 10:33 am
Stag chille anyone :)
Mmmm...Stag Chili.
...lars
Hecklin at y'al
February 28th, 2007, 07:58 pm
300 F is not that hot. Your burner/fire is much, much hotter than that.
Well, you have to remember the food will absorb the heat, preventing the can from getting that hot, unless you forget about it.
After all, didn't you ever boil water in a paper cup? That's how First nations could cook in birch bark containers without it catching fire.
Tim...boiled water in paper and plastic cups.
Wes Rempel
February 28th, 2007, 08:02 pm
But you must remember, metal is a good conductor of heat, while paper, plastic and wood are not. The different properties lead to different results.
Bushman81
March 2nd, 2007, 12:19 am
Mmmm...Stag Chili.
...lars
dyno_mite hot baby :finger_1:
sdillen
March 6th, 2007, 10:52 am
I thought this was going to be a safety warning about not throwing cans of tinned food into the fire. Fortunately, it's not, and I can continue with that tradition.
...lars
Mackenzie still gets on my case every time we go camping. All it took was just one time of forgetting a can of clam chowder on the fire and I'm tarnished with a reputation for life......
rscubin
March 11th, 2007, 05:03 pm
Gentleman... (and I use the term loosely) are we forgetting the reason for cooking in a can over a fire in the first place? Or are we all so far removed from our regular wheeling and camping exploits that we suddenly think were friggin scientist's? Get over it... ITS NOT GOURMET!!! ITS A CAN... ITS A FIRE... As long as we put a hole in the can for the pressure to get out.... LOOK OUT BELLY LOOK OUT BUM.... A WHOLE LOTTA PLASTIC YOUR WAY COMES!!! :redneck
Greensierra
March 12th, 2007, 06:40 pm
That lining wont melt unless its in a red hot fire for too long,by then the contents are not edible either,unless you are really wasted.
B22004x
March 18th, 2007, 01:57 am
You know, if you lightly score the top of the can, and drop it down a 3' steel tube into a nice hot fire, you can make a "soup cannon" however the only thing that leaves the tube is an empty can. But it does make for a fairly nice fwoomp sound.
Moose good
March 19th, 2007, 12:47 pm
you can make a "soup cannon"
I laughed so hard I farted. Gotta try this.:D
crazyguy
March 30th, 2007, 12:28 am
that sounds like fun. I still want to try the spray bomb cannon.
canucksafari
April 20th, 2007, 11:18 am
that sounds like fun. I still want to try the spray bomb cannon.
Reminds me about something I did a long time a go in the small town wehere I grew up. I was at the dump with my dad one day after unloading our garbage. He always liked to take a look out at the metal piles for things he could use. I walked down to the burn pile. Yes, at one time towns use to burn garbage. I noticed 3 big boxes of spay paint cans that someone had left - probably after a garage clean out. I guess I was kind of bored and just wanted to see how big of a bang they would make. It was quiet and no one was there except my dad and me. So I grabbed the three boxes and threw them in the burn pile and then ran a safe distance behind a few wrecked vehicles. Just as I arrived in my observation post, Johnny O', the town garbage collector rolled up in his old 5 ton truck. He had just got the rear doors swung open by the burn pile when all hell broke loose. Cans were blowing all over the place, some trailing tails of fireuiuuqrwee
lars
April 20th, 2007, 11:29 am
Heh, I've had the same rite of passage at the dump. We used to scrounge for aerosol cans to throw into the inevitable burning barrel of trash that was always there. Good times. Finding boxes of old LPs was also great 'cuz you could fling them like frisbees into the big pit. That dump was a lot of fun!
(BTW, I saw John O'Rourke last month when we were in town. He must be about 70-something and only retired from his garbage truck business about 3 or so years ago.)
...lars
Lone Ranger
April 27th, 2007, 11:44 am
hehe yeah, that soup cannon's cool, pretty much the same as dropping a can down an exhaust stack.
I know the lining you speak of, you see them occasionally but not too often. I wouldn't worry about it much if you're stirring the contents often enough, or shaking the can if you've only poked a hole in it. But cooking over a fire's the best way to do it, and its still the only way I can stand :spam
Moose good
April 27th, 2007, 12:45 pm
Any cooks out there can confirm this, but I think tomato reacts with iron in the presence of oxygen with potentially toxic results. The lining allows you to put the can in the fridge with leftovers. Bars and restaurants dump clamato and tomato juice into pitchers even if it's not leaving the kitchen.
Bronco Boy
April 27th, 2007, 04:50 pm
When I was young and stupid......
We used to spend every weekend at my buddies cabin. It became a tradition that just before going to bed, we would grab a can of whatever (beans, tomato's, tomato paste, soup), and let it warm up in the fire (down by the lake). By the time you got your head on your pillow, you could hear the can expanding, followed by a loud kaboom, then giggles throughout the cabin.
After a few months of that, we moved on to more volatile cans......WD40 and chain-lube! The chain lube can went missing! We ended up finding it next morning, in pieces, on the other side of the cabin; it flew at least 100' up and over.
We weren't that stupid, so we went back to blowing up canned food. :redneck
DavyJones
April 28th, 2007, 07:07 pm
I think putting tinned goods on a fire is a phase guys go through, even though they sometimes stay in that phase. We put a jumbo sized can of pork and beans on a campfire once. Everyone had their tents set up about 15 feet from the firepit, and we never thought to move them. When the can exploded (midnight, height of fire season), there were flaming beans everywhere and we had to run around putting out spot fires. We never found the can.
So move your tent far away when practicing this ritual.
Lone Ranger
April 29th, 2007, 04:45 pm
So move your tent far away when practicing this ritual.
I think I found out an even better one. Beast and I were up camping this weekend and he managed to score a pail FULL of magnesium wedges and slices, which are interesting enough on their own on the fire (you know the whole deal of putting water on a burning mag fire? Its cool to watch). Well, we ended up throwing the whole bucket on at the end of the night with about 10 lbs left in and and that was purely spectacular, especially when the bucket fell over and burning/exploding magnesium was flying everywhere (thankfull the ground was wet from a recent rain).. Then to top it off I just had to throw a couple of AA batteries in to the mix (they normally don't do too much besides pop)... KAAABOOOOM!!! Holy sheit did that explode!! Basically blew like a 1/4 stick and scattered the fire everywhere. And now I have some handy "drain" holes all throughout my folding camping chair from flying molten mag pieces..... Thankfully nothing hit the trucks!!
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