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BCHunter
November 21st, 2006, 10:33 pm
any cat hunters here?
Bog Hog
November 21st, 2006, 11:57 pm
:redneck ...Currently hunting one that likes to use the little garden that runs in front of the house as a toilet and digs up plants in the summer..
Kellykins
November 22nd, 2006, 03:13 am
any cat hunters here? Please tell me you eat them after you kill them...
BCHunter
November 22nd, 2006, 06:55 am
i plan on trying it, its my first year hunting cats. I do plan to keep their hides
Kellykins
November 22nd, 2006, 07:09 am
i plan on trying it, its my first year hunting cats. I do plan to keep their hides
I'm a eat what you kill sorta person. How Ted Nugent of me.
I hear cougar pepperoni is good.
barracuda
November 22nd, 2006, 12:18 pm
I'm a eat what you kill sorta person. How Ted Nugent of me.
I hear cougar pepperoni is good.
what is the difference if you eat the animal or harvest it for its pelt? (or destry it because of predation, crop damage etc) a death is a death is a death.
I just find it odd how people use differnt means of justification for their actions .
ruby75
November 22nd, 2006, 12:41 pm
what is the difference if you eat the animal or harvest it for its pelt? (or destry it because of predation, crop damage etc) a death is a death is a death.
I just find it odd how people use differnt means of justification for their actions .
I think there's a major difference. I don't, and will not, shoot a cat but I do hunt alot for food. I think killing something just for a hide is BS, or killing it just because it's munching on your flower bed. I don't kill for the sport of killing, I eat everything I shoot. I'd much rather eat game meat than anything else, I know nothing has been added to it. For me, it's a way of life and how I was brought up.
barracuda
November 22nd, 2006, 02:59 pm
does it really matter to the animal what you have used to justify its demise?
do you throw away (waste) the hide and only keep the meat ?
brian468
November 22nd, 2006, 03:19 pm
I wont eat it so I wont hunt it, that and i`m not big on the whole dogs used to tree the cat, must be a pretty horrific feeling for the cat.
ruby75
November 22nd, 2006, 03:27 pm
I will not try and justify it to you, it's just what I do. I am very thankful to the animal that gave it's life and tell it so. May sound weird to some but whatever, it what we do and were tought to do. I am an extremely ethical hunter and do not abuse my privilege at all. I do not use the hide but the animals that eat the hide sure do not consider it a waste.
barracuda
November 22nd, 2006, 04:06 pm
ok i will address Ruby first
I do agree with you that you should have respect for the animal but at the end of the day it is still dead and whether you use the meat and hide or hide only or meat only what is left behind in nature is consumed by the other animals so as you have said it is not wasted.
secondly Brian hunting with hounds is extremly tough (assuming you dont just hire a pack or a guide) it takes alot of time and devotion to get them to where they are to be good hunting dogs. as for how it is rough on cats?
Cats are routinely put up trees buy wolves,bears,and even coyotes it is a very natural place for a cat (or bear) to go (were does your common house cat take refuge? up a tree! ) hunting with hounds is basiclly catch and release hunting how do you think all those pretty pictures of cougars in trees and on ledges etc are taken ? you can decide to harvest the animal or just let it go.
ruby75
November 22nd, 2006, 04:27 pm
[QUOTE=barracuda;664156]ok i will address Ruby first
I do agree with you that you should have respect for the animal but at the end of the day it is still dead and whether you use the meat and hide or hide only or meat only what is left behind in nature is consumed by the other animals so as you have said it is not wasted.
QUOTE]
I just can't agree with you on that. If someone shot a deer, cut off it's head and left the meat in the bush for the animals to eat (thinking that's OK), is wrong. Someone who would do that and thinks it's OK definitley was not tought respect. I really think that person deserves a swift kick to the nuts. They do not have respect for that animal, they only consider it a trophy and bragging material. What then did that animal die for? Not a good enough reason I say. If the animal was eaten then I would say it died for a reason.
brian468
November 22nd, 2006, 04:47 pm
I wasn`t badmouthing hunting cats, just that I wouldn`t do it for reasons stated above.
ruby75
November 22nd, 2006, 04:58 pm
I wasn`t badmouthing hunting cats, just that I wouldn`t do it for reasons stated above.
Me neither, just not my thing. As long as they eat it I'm fine with it.
barracuda
November 22nd, 2006, 05:23 pm
just so you know what you have described in relation to the deer is against the law . You can shoot a coyote for its fur , and it carcase will be consumed by the forest after .
some animal are legally designated fur bearing animals, some are meat and some are considered vermin.
as long as the person is within the confines of the law i dont see a problem with it.
17.
to kill wildlife (with the exception of
grizzly bear, cougar or a fur bearing
animal other than a black bear) and fail
to remove from the carcass the edible
portions of the four quarters and loins
to the person’s normal dwelling place or
to a meat cutter or the owner or
operator of a cold storage plant.A
person who kills wildlife is exempted
from the requirement to remove the
edible portions if that person transfers
possession of the wildlife to a recipient
who complies with the requirement.
Edible portions do not include meat that
has been damaged and made inedible by
the method of taking. Of grizzly bear,
cougar or a furbearing animal other than
a black bear, the hide must be removed
to the person’s normal dwelling place or
to a meat cutter, the owner or operator
of a cold storage plant or to a
taxidermist, tanner or a fur trader. A
person who kills wildlife is exempted
from the requirement to remove the
hide if that person transfers possession
of the wildlife to another person who
complies with the requirement.
Edible Portions - with respect to big
game, excluding grizzly bear, cougar, wolf,
lynx, bobcat and wolverine, means the
edible portions of the four quarters and
the loins of the animal and with respect to
game birds, means the edible portions of
both breasts of the bird.
WHAT IS “ WILDLIFE”?
All native species of animals in the
province excluding invertebrates and fish as
well as several non-native species have
been designated as wildlife, giving them full
protection under provisions of the
Wildlife Act, RSBC 1996, Chapter 488.These
species may not be hunted, killed, captured,
kept as pets or used for commercial
purposes unless specifically allowed by regulation
or by authority of a permit from
MoE. Schedules “B” and “C” of the
Designation and Exemption Regulation list
wildlife that are known to destroy property
and/or are detrimental to native wildlife.
These species have fewer restrictions regulating
their hunting, killing or capturing. Any
capture or killing of these species must still
abide by provincial laws regarding the
humane treatment of animals.
Schedule B
Schedule "B" lists animals that may be
captured or killed only for the specific
purpose of protecting property unless an
open season is designated by regulation
(see Regional Schedules for open seasons).
(a) Scapanus orarius - coast mole
(b) Lepus americanus - snowshoe hare
(c) all of the species of the sub family
Arvicolinae and lemmings, except
Ondonatra zibethicus - muskrat.
(d) Neotoma cinerea - bushy-tailed woodrat
(e) all species of the genus Peromyscus -
deer mice
(f) Erethizon dorsatum - porcupine
(g) T****mys talpoides - northern pocket
gopher
(h) Marmota flaviventris - yellow-bellied
marmot
(i) Marmota monax - woodchuck
(j) Spermophilus columbianus - Columbian
ground squirrel
(k) Mephitis mephitis - striped skunk
(l) Procyon lotor - raccoon
(m) Spilogale putorius - spotted skunk
Schedule C
Schedule "C" animals can be captured or
killed anywhere and at any time in BC.
Schedule “C” birds may be hunted using electronic
calls. You do not need a hunting
licence to hunt the following
Schedule “C” wildlife:
(a) Rana catesbeiana - American bullfrog
(b) all species of the family Chelydridae -
snapping turtles
(c) Didelphis virginiana - North American
opossum
(d) Sylvilagus floridanus - eastern cottontail
( e) Oryctolagus cuniculus - European rabbit
(f) Myocastor coypus - nutria
(g) all species of the genus Sciurus - grey
squirrels and fox squirrels
(h) Passer domesticus - house sparrow
(i) Sturnus vulgaris - European starling
(j) Columbia livia - rock dove (domestic
pigeon)
You do need a hunting licence to hunt the
following Schedule “C” wildlife UNLESS you
are hunting them on your property or they
are damaging your property:
(a) all species of the genus C o rvus - crows,
except C o rvus corax - common raven
(b) Pica pica - black-billed magpie
(c) Molothrus ater - brown-headed
cowbird and the eggs of this bird
species may be destroyed.
Kellykins
November 22nd, 2006, 06:22 pm
Brian is from the States, the laws differ there. Heck, you can bait there for cryn' out loud (although I know he doesn't).
Sorry to have caused a hijack situation of your thread, BCHunter...
brian468
November 22nd, 2006, 06:49 pm
some states you can bait some states ya can`t, just like hunting with dogs.
BCHunter
November 23rd, 2006, 02:55 pm
there wasn't any hijacking done, no worrys
wile_thang
December 2nd, 2006, 12:02 am
Please tell me you eat them after you kill them...
I am guessing that you don't actually hunt....
Kellykins
December 2nd, 2006, 01:55 am
I am guessing that you don't actually hunt....
No, I haven't. But I would if I was given the oppertunity. I just think if you kill something, you might as well give it the respect to at least eat it. Is that allowed?
trailranger
January 8th, 2007, 09:39 pm
[QUOTE=Kellykins;664224]Brian is from the States, the laws differ there. Heck, you can bait there for cryn' out loud (although I know he doesn't).
You can bait some places in Canada too.
foxtail-offroad
February 23rd, 2007, 11:53 am
I would hunt and kill a cugar but not to eat nor for the pelt... although I would keep the pelt. The only reason I would hunt a cougar would be if it was a threat to people or livestalk. This passed year I hunted on a friends cattle ranch in quesnel(3500 acres on the fraser), He has had problems with the big cats and bears. In that case I would hunt the cat for him and keep the pelt. I would not eat it though because they remind me too much of a house kitty...
Kellykins
February 23rd, 2007, 03:20 pm
I would not eat it though because they remind me too much of a house kitty...
Think of it as Chinese food. HA ha...
http://humor.beecy.net/songs/chinesechicken/
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