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belmont mild
October 22nd, 2006, 01:43 am
http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin

documenatry should be out now called earthlings
http://www.glumbert.com/media/dolphin


let north korea bomb japan the hoarding fakkers... This made me very upset

gavman
October 22nd, 2006, 09:05 am
Brutal

Mike Wild
October 22nd, 2006, 10:09 am
That's some sad freaking sh*t

I had to shut it off.

Chucky3436
October 22nd, 2006, 02:29 pm
Mind you guys in alot of places in asia, theres the fringe elements of the old ways that still run stuff like this. I would assure you that over 99% of the normal population most likely is just as disgusted as you or I in regards to this type of activity.

This is the same thing as the Koreans eating dog. Most of the newer generation of modern koreans are most revolted by the idea and its not every one that eats dog for dinner on a regular basis.

And id also try like to try to let you find a chinese person that enjoys watching dogs get slaughtered for fur, or eats monkey brains.

This is a select group of backwards non-progressive people within this country that refuse to envelop modern humane ideals.

Dont clump the whole country with they consider rural backwards hick type people. It would be similar to saying all 4x4 drivers are incestuous squeel like a pig redneck country fxckers.

SizzleChest
October 22nd, 2006, 04:12 pm
ya, i can't watch that stuff.

on a lighter note, i saw an asian family today (most likely newly immigrated) driving with their N on the passenger side window :D

belmont mild
October 22nd, 2006, 04:13 pm
Chucky3436 you have some good points but in the day we live in today we don't whalehunt like the old days/ we aren't aloud to rape the oceans of tuna and other things bans and such treaties that are stated in the end of that clip...

They even sell the meat as whale meat in the stores which is bull**** marketing..

Anywyas the whole way they fished those poor dolphins into a ball and beat-dragged cut them to death/ i dunno that was just morbid.

gavman
October 22nd, 2006, 05:13 pm
Sizzlechest, you're funny

axldrgn
October 22nd, 2006, 06:17 pm
that is just ****ing wrong!!!

i dont wanna see that.

slappy
October 22nd, 2006, 08:18 pm
i couldn't even watch the whole video. what's wrong with these people. i hope they all die a slow and painfull death.

Bog Hog
October 22nd, 2006, 08:25 pm
if thats they way they get rid of pests in their country. We should round them up and do the same:redneck

MR.MIKE
October 22nd, 2006, 08:47 pm
that sh*t is f*cked up how can they do that.... o well one day they will get theres

Chucky3436
October 22nd, 2006, 08:56 pm
Chucky3436 you have some good points but in the day we live in today we don't whalehunt like the old days/ we aren't aloud to rape the oceans of tuna and other things bans and such treaties that are stated in the end of that clip...

They even sell the meat as whale meat in the stores which is bull**** marketing..

Anywyas the whole way they fished those poor dolphins into a ball and beat-dragged cut them to death/ i dunno that was just morbid.

Oh i totally agree.

Then again, i never thought the japanese were very sane as a whole anyways :laugh

Its a hard sell though, the old ways of thinking still run alot of power and politics in asian countries. I am quite positive that in a few generations such practices will be completely eliminated as the young, educated and more progressive people take control and discard of such things.

Look at China for example. The entire govt is run by a bunch of old farts who run the country with an iron fist. They are teh OLD ways of thinking. The young generation knows of modern technology, of humane ideals and of free thought. Thats what happened at Tiannamen square...the youth revolted, and the old men put them down. Sooner or later, these old men will fade away and the next generation will take over. When that happens, i assure you things like this will be no more.

Its only a matter of time.

littletruck
October 22nd, 2006, 09:39 pm
DROP THE BOMB:D :redneck :D

toynado
October 22nd, 2006, 09:49 pm
Have any of you ever heard of the Canadian Harp Seal Hunt. Slaughter of animals just doesnt happen in Aisa.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-28131871518847999&q=seal+hunt&hl=en

belmont mild
October 22nd, 2006, 10:06 pm
Originally posted by toynado
Have any of you ever heard of the Canadian Harp Seal Hunt. Slaughter of animals just doesnt happen in Aisa.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-28131871518847999&q=seal+hunt&hl=en

yeah that is bull**** as well

littletruck
October 22nd, 2006, 10:29 pm
We do it for a good cause, like our salmon population if you dont watch the seal population there becomes to many and guess what they eat our ever disapearing salmon stocks

Kellykins
October 22nd, 2006, 11:15 pm
Originally posted by littletruck
We do it for a good cause, like our salmon population if you dont watch the seal population there becomes to many and guess what they eat our ever disapearing salmon stocks


That's it. That's what everyone is worried about, those damn SEALS eating all the salmon... THAT'S why they are disappearing!!! How come we all didn't come to this realization before?!

You f-tard.

That is an assinine comment that does not have any effort what-so-ever of being remotely educated. Decreased stocks wouldn't have to do anything with the daily dumping of vast tonnes of toxic waste, untreated raw sewage, MERCURY, arsenic (just to name a very few) in oceans/river systems. Nor would it have to do with the ever looming threats of fish farming...

I say good day sir!!! :angry

muddhunter
October 23rd, 2006, 12:39 am
You guys watched too much Flipper when you were young. That was no more inhumane than boiling a crab alive. Actually I think I might like to try some Dolphin meat one day.:D

whitetrashxj
October 23rd, 2006, 12:55 am
, i only got half way before i had to turn it off, sheesh

Kellykins
October 23rd, 2006, 10:44 am
Originally posted by muddhunter
You guys watched too much Flipper when you were young. That was no more inhumane than boiling a crab alive. Actually I think I might like to try some Dolphin meat one day.:D

That's what I figured, but I guess people get more defensive over cute cuddly mammals then the poor crustations.

People should be equally irrate about how dolphins are kept in small crappy pens and made to swim with us dumbass humans over and over in places like Mexico and what not.

Bronco Boy
October 23rd, 2006, 02:13 pm
<insert Cartman voice>
Dolphins are stupid. If they're so damn smart how come they get caught in those fishing nets all the time?!

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

slappy
October 23rd, 2006, 04:51 pm
DUMBASS HUMANS-i like that

justgivroffroad
October 23rd, 2006, 05:24 pm
now i dont feel sorry for the slant eyes ive had run ins with.......drop the bomb

vince69007
October 23rd, 2006, 06:12 pm
http://www.factoryfarming.com/beef.htm

next time you eat a burger... remember this.


edit... my freezer is full of meat BTW.

copeland
October 23rd, 2006, 08:23 pm
I think if your concerned about that you may want to investigate the **** dumped into the oceans by North America alone...

the effects of the dolphin massacre are limited to those dolphins...what type of effects across the eco system do you think pouring chemical and by rpoducts into the ocean has aross the scale...


there is a bigger problem here.

littletruck
October 23rd, 2006, 09:38 pm
The bigger problem is people who think that there is more to it than that, but the the problem persists from the ignorants of the people trying to bring up other problems than what was seen. Yes, we our selves are not perfect but we are a alot more humain than China or Japan and yes may have a seal hunt but, compared to what these other countrys do we dont even come close. So to all of you that want to blam it on polution or other causes your just as bad as the ones that say, if we dont kill them the polution will. Well polution dont round up hundreds of poor inacent dolphins in to nets and the procced to beat, cut or sufficate them to death.

So all of you should think before you speak.

copeland
October 23rd, 2006, 09:49 pm
Originally posted by littletruck
The bigger problem is people who think that there is more to it than that, but the the problem persists from the ignorants of the people trying to bring up other problems than what was seen. Yes, we our selves are not perfect but we are a alot more humain than China or Japan and yes may have a seal hunt but, compared to what these other countrys do we dont even come close. So to all of you that want to blam it on polution or other causes your just as bad as the ones that say, if we dont kill them the polution will. Well polution dont round up hundreds of poor inacent dolphins in to nets and the procced to beat, cut or sufficate them to death.

So all of you should think before you speak.

right instead you pollute foodchains and make a cross species sufferage much more brutal then the 'short' length of time it takes to kill a dolphin...think france and underwater nuke testing...

so instead of being holier then thou, perhaps you could think a little about the bigger picture. I believe the narrator even said this is a seasonal event.

belmont mild
October 23rd, 2006, 10:36 pm
alright if i knew this was gonna get heaty and debated i would have said it from the beginning...


If you are gonna kill **** be kind about it don't drag it alive down a road slit its throat and let it hop around in ****ing pain... Just shoot the faking thing dead end of it..

I think what im getting at is if someone you knew was on the way out would you wnant them to be in pain would you let someone come in slice them up so they die hurting?

I think not...

You would not let it be done to a human/ dog/ cat pet bird you get my point! And if it were you would have all kinds of humane people up your ass so far!!!!

toynado
October 23rd, 2006, 10:42 pm
The bigger problem is people who think that there is more to it than that, but the the problem persists from the ignorants of the people trying to bring up other problems than what was seen. Yes, we our selves are not perfect but we are a alot more humain than China or Japan and yes may have a seal hunt but, compared to what these other countrys do we dont even come close. So to all of you that want to blam it on polution or other causes your just as bad as the ones that say, if we dont kill them the polution will. Well polution dont round up hundreds of poor inacent dolphins in to nets and the procced to beat, cut or sufficate them to death.

You say that we are alot more humain than China or Japan, check out these numbers
Over 23000 dolphins killed in japan in 2005
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0411/S00145.htm

Over 335000 harp seals killed in Canada in 2006
http://www.harpseals.org/

overthetop
October 23rd, 2006, 10:51 pm
**** the bigger picture. There are kids living on the streets in our own towns, there are problems with people in our own province and you are crying about dolphins suffering in china and some seals? Let's devote or attention to ourselves.

And for all of you who used the term "Slant eyed" or generalized about a race as a whole.....

Forget it. No point starting that one too.

*(Putting on flame resistant suit)*

belmont mild
October 23rd, 2006, 11:21 pm
do not know where the seal thing came up i never posted seals but seals and dolphins are 2 different things.... Anyways like i said just kill them fast....

Kellykins
October 24th, 2006, 02:04 am
Originally posted by littletruck

So all of you should think before you speak.

Look up irony in the dictionary (the big book with words and the meanings of said words).

If you truly think that North Americans are all about humanity, you really are a moron.

Do you only buy cruelty-free products? Do you scream bloody murder at all the companies that use animals for testing when producing your cologne, deoderant, toothpaste, shampoo, conditioner, hair gel, lube, anti-itch ointments? I think not. Did you ever rip off legs off spiders, the tails off newts, burn ants with a magnifying glass, shoot squirrels with a pellet gun? Get mad at the people that set nets out on the rivers to catch sockeye, and leave the nets out too long so all the fish die, making one fat stinky load of garbage? Eat beef? Think feedlots are little all-inclusive vacations cows enjoy before being stunned, forced to their knees, and then have their jugular slit, and are hung upside down moving forward on a mechanical line, where they die by blood loss/choking on their own blood? You really sitting there and telling me that us North Americans do everything humanely?

You sir, are a walking contradiction.

toynado
October 24th, 2006, 07:46 am
do not know where the seal thing came up i never posted seals but seals and dolphins are 2 different things.... Anyways like i said just kill them fast....

Apples and oranges are two different things aswell, but they are still fruit

I brought the "seal thing" up because it seemed like alot of people believe that these kind of things don't happen here in North America.

belmont mild
October 24th, 2006, 06:55 pm
Originally posted by overthetop
**** the bigger picture. There are kids living on the streets in our own towns, there are problems with people in our own province and you are crying about dolphins suffering in china and some seals? Let's devote or attention to ourselves.

And for all of you who used the term "Slant eyed" or generalized about a race as a whole.....

Forget it. No point starting that one too.

*(Putting on flame resistant suit)*

wtf is this about tell the kids to get out and survive they panhandle beg rip you off... They want this lifestyle...
Come to vancouver see what we have here it has to do with drugs dependance on things... Not my problem i think they need to get a job!

whitetrashxj
October 24th, 2006, 07:08 pm
Originally posted by belmont mild


wtf is this about tell the kids to get out and survive they panhandle beg rip you off... They want this lifestyle...
Come to vancouver see what we have here it has to do with drugs dependance on things... Not my problem i think they need to get a job!

no shiat

Kellykins
October 25th, 2006, 12:04 am
Speaking of bigger picture... People that have dependance problems are usually co-morbid, meaning they have a co-occuring disorder with the addiction. So, how can you treat the addiction without addressing the mental illness? You can't tell a person with these problems to "get a job", talk about not seeing the bigger picture. Expecting a person with untreated schizophrenia (or other mental illness) to hold down a job is totally unrealistic, and saying such does not help anyone, least of all the person with the illness.

You would be very surprised to learn that a large percentage of Lower East Side street folk are actually released patients from Riverview from over a decade ago due to government cut backs.


EDIT: Wow... and it happened in North American you say? :confused2

Animal Torture (http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=5f3ce44a-feec-4aa9-9870-d707fbaa18a1)

gavman
October 25th, 2006, 12:21 am
That was just really well written kellykins, Sure makes you think!!!!

Bronco Boy
October 25th, 2006, 08:03 am
Originally posted by Kellykins
Speaking of bigger picture... People that have dependance problems are usually co-morbid, meaning they have a co-occuring disorder with the addiction. So, how can you treat the addiction without addressing the mental illness? You can't tell a person with these problems to "get a job", talk about not seeing the bigger picture. Expecting a person with untreated schizophrenia (or other mental illness) to hold down a job is totally unrealistic, and saying such does not help anyone, least of all the person with the illness.

You would be very surprised to learn that a large percentage of Lower East Side street folk are actually released patients from Riverview from over a decade ago due to government cut backs.
I think he was referring to the large percentage of "homeless" people that choose to be homeless; the ones that prefer to sleep in a dumpster rather than in a shelter, yet they want all the free handouts. These people are milking the system and they can safely be told to get a job. If they were to do so, we could then afford to give the legitimate "homeless" people the help they need.

Kellykins
October 25th, 2006, 08:55 am
Originally posted by Bronco Boy

I think he was referring to the large percentage of "homeless" people that choose to be homeless; the ones that prefer to sleep in a dumpster rather than in a shelter, yet they want all the free handouts. These people are milking the system and they can safely be told to get a job. If they were to do so, we could then afford to give the legitimate "homeless" people the help they need.

I still don't see the difference. I just see a bunch of judging and assumptions. I mean, what mentally healthy person CHOOSES to be homeless? What goes on in the mind of a person that choses a dumpster over a bed? That doesn't sound very "normal" to me. Actually, sounds like paranoia, which is a fairly common feature of schizophrenia! Ever actually talked to one of these people and have them tell you that they CHOSE that lifestyle? That and shelters are always chock full, especially in the colder months. Where else can they go?

Bronco Boy
October 25th, 2006, 09:26 am
Originally posted by Kellykins I still don't see the difference. I just see a bunch of judging and assumptions. I mean, what mentally healthy person CHOOSES to be homeless? What goes on in the mind of a person that choses a dumpster over a bed? That doesn't sound very "normal" to me. Actually, sounds like paranoia, which is a fairly common feature of schizophrenia! Ever actually talked to one of these people and have them tell you that they CHOSE that lifestyle? That and shelters are always chock full, especially in the colder months. Where else can they go?
You don't see the difference between a sick homeless person over a lazy person that claims chosses to be homeless rather than being a contributing member of our society?

You should watch the news. Or head downtown. Heck, even in Coquitlam we have our fair share of beggers. I have lost count of how many times I have seen o nthe news when they are doing a report on the homeless, or some sort of protest, and there is always one or two interviews where these so called homeless people refuse help, admit that they chose to be homeless, and that they would rather sleep on a park bench than in a shelter. I don't care what YOU call it, but to me, they have chosen their own destiny. If they want help, it is there, but they don't want it.

And yes, I have talked to a few of them....when they ask me for change. I always refuse, and start asking them questions. The legit ones answer, and I have bought a few of them a cup of coffee. The ones that tell me to F-off are the ones that walk away to their car and move to another street corner. Did you catch that? A homeless begger with a car! Even caught one go to a $50k 4-Runner!

Don't be fooled! Not all homeless and beggers are what they appear to be. There is good money in begging for change.

As I already said, there are legit homeless and sick folk on the street, but they are out-numbered by scamming, lazy bums that don't contribute anything to society other than milking money from our pockets. These are the ones that need to get a job, or move to another province.

Kellykins
October 25th, 2006, 09:50 am
Originally posted by Bronco Boy

You don't see the difference between a sick homeless person over a lazy person that claims chosses to be homeless rather than being a contributing member of our society?

You should watch the news. Or head downtown. Heck, even in Coquitlam we have our fair share of beggers. I have lost count of how many times I have seen o nthe news when they are doing a report on the homeless, or some sort of protest, and there is always one or two interviews where these so called homeless people refuse help, admit that they chose to be homeless, and that they would rather sleep on a park bench than in a shelter. I don't care what YOU call it, but to me, they have chosen their own destiny. If they want help, it is there, but they don't want it.

And yes, I have talked to a few of them....when they ask me for change. I always refuse, and start asking them questions. The legit ones answer, and I have bought a few of them a cup of coffee. The ones that tell me to F-off are the ones that walk away to their car and move to another street corner. Did you catch that? A homeless begger with a car! Even caught one go to a $50k 4-Runner!

Don't be fooled! Not all homeless and beggers are what they appear to be. There is good money in begging for change.

As I already said, there are legit homeless and sick folk on the street, but they are out-numbered by scamming, lazy bums that don't contribute anything to society other than milking money from our pockets. These are the ones that need to get a job, or move to another province.

Yep, I have actually WORKED with homeless folk downtown Vancouver. And I disagree, there are more genuinely needy (of healthcare and food/shelter) then there are scammers. And I know there are scammers, I'm not saying every homeless person (or person that appears to be homeless, rather) is the real deal. But after working in a clinic down there that focused on the forgotten populations of the Lower Mainland, my eyes have seen the light, so to speak.

So how does one judge between the sick and the greedy? Are you truly capable in ability and true knowledge to make those judgment calls?

Bronco Boy
October 25th, 2006, 11:04 am
Originally posted by Kellykins So how does one judge between the sick and the greedy? Are you truly capable in ability and true knowledge to make those judgment calls?
We shouldn't be judging. We should be sifting through and putting aside the scammers and help the truly sick. It is not to hard to determine that with a simple one on one converstaion.

I was just talking to my shipper about this, and he said he saw a new clip this summer about an apple farmer that walked through the streets of Kelowna offering the homeless people a job and a place to sleep. He couldn't find anybody to work for him. If I was truly homeless, I would jump at an opportunity to make some money and improve my life.

I will admit that I am not a very sympathetic person when it comes to this subject. Things like the Safe Injection sites are an absolute waste of money. Why not have one for Marijuana? Crack? PCP? Cocaine? Lets just have a big old drugfest downtown!

It is unfortunate that the bad apples ruin it for the good apples, but isn't that how the world works?

Kellykins
October 25th, 2006, 07:33 pm
Originally posted by Bronco Boy

We shouldn't be judging. We should be sifting through and putting aside the scammers and help the truly sick. It is not to hard to determine that with a simple one on one converstaion.

I was just talking to my shipper about this, and he said he saw a new clip this summer about an apple farmer that walked through the streets of Kelowna offering the homeless people a job and a place to sleep. He couldn't find anybody to work for him. If I was truly homeless, I would jump at an opportunity to make some money and improve my life.

I will admit that I am not a very sympathetic person when it comes to this subject. Things like the Safe Injection sites are an absolute waste of money. Why not have one for Marijuana? Crack? PCP? Cocaine? Lets just have a big old drugfest downtown!

It is unfortunate that the bad apples ruin it for the good apples, but isn't that how the world works?

Well a psychiatrist would have to be doing these suggested one-on-one conversations then. And really, you can't make a diagnosis based on one conversation (that and the paranoid would likely refuse to talk to such a person).

I could see that ill folk would deny a job. I'm sure there are a lot of jerks that are content to milk the system, but my point is there is no cut and dry system to weed them out from the sick.

The safe injection site is located in a really "heroin" part of town. Every neighbourghood has a drug of choice. I worked in the "chrystal" part of town. And the injection sites are really cost effective. Look into how much one trip to the ER for an overdose case costs. The cost of Narcan (the drug that kicks out the opiates out of the opiate receptors, creating instant withdrawl) is obsene, let alone life support and other treatments. The safe injection site only needs to prevent one overdose a week or something to be cost effective, so really, they are SAVING you money, and preventing the addicts from clogging up ERs for the rest of us with our Darwin Award contestant related injuries.

And if you wanted to save even more tax dollars, legalize everything. Let the buyers of these things pay the damn tax themselves. (Pls. note: I do not nesseccarily agree with these views myself, but it is a feasable solution to the problem at hand...)

Bronco Boy
October 26th, 2006, 07:51 am
Originally posted by Kellykins I could see that ill folk would deny a job. I'm sure there are a lot of jerks that are content to milk the system, but my point is there is no cut and dry system to weed them out from the sick.
True, but you can't help the one's that need it until you get rid of the one's that don't.

Anyways, how about them poor dolphins!
:)

Kellykins
October 26th, 2006, 01:40 pm
Originally posted by Bronco Boy



Anyways, how about them poor dolphins!
:)

Bah, they're just getting all this attention b/c people watched "Flipper", and they have an affinity (ha ha... "fin") for cute, cuddly, intellegent creatures... If it was some ugly, stupid creature, like, hmmm... ugly creature... can't think of one at the moment, besides certain politicians to the South, there wouldn't be this outcry.

How bout the bears, wolves, cougars (not so cuddley, but pretty just the same) that are currently threatened to be slaughtered in lame-ass hopes to protect caribou numbers right in our own freaking province?!

Bronco Boy
October 26th, 2006, 03:55 pm
Originally posted by Kellykins How bout the bears, wolves, cougars (not so cuddley, but pretty just the same) that are currently threatened to be slaughtered in lame-ass hopes to protect caribou numbers right in our own freaking province?!
I'm not gonna say a word on that one. :D

overthetop
October 26th, 2006, 10:41 pm
No one chooses to be an addict.

sinner
October 27th, 2006, 12:26 am
Whats the big deal? Its food just like fish,cow, prawns, etc ....people have such a ****ty attitude towards stuff we dont see as edible food

I dont see the problem with asians eating dogs either. And dont even start the argument that there pets. I had a friend that had to pot bellied pigs for pets....pretty smart ones too.

The only thing that i see that could be improved on is that they slice them open still alive but as someone has already stated ....we boil crabs live whats the diffence?

sparrow
October 29th, 2006, 09:59 am
Why do we always pick one creature and lament about it? Sinner is right; Canada is just as guilty. As are we. But to make racist comments is worse. Far worse.
Do a little research on what we are doing to this planet and its inhabitants before picking just one isolated incident.... and if you do actually care enough about this one isolated incident DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!! Instead of sitting on your butt making a racist comment, while wiping you very own blood soaked hands of the entire debacle.
Did one of you actually do anything else. Just one?
Thought so.
But calling the Japanese derogatory names or suggesting we bomb them will help. Right?
Losers.

fookeneh
October 29th, 2006, 10:49 pm
Animals suffer and always will, same as humans. I needed a good emotional release, so I watched both the dolphin and seal films. There are many mistakes we make that need to change.

Dan
October 29th, 2006, 11:50 pm
Its always about animal rights to you people, geez get a grip. The Hypocritical opinions that its okay to eat cows, chickens, and pigs, but oh please please don't hurt the poor dolphins, seals, dogs, and cats.

WHAT ABOUT THE POOR VEGETABLES??? HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN THOUGH TO THE POOR VEGETABLES?? TAKEN AGAINST THEIR WILL, LOCKED IN CAGES, PUT ON DISPLAY UNDER BRIGHT LIGHTS ...................

Join the Vegetable Rights Militant Movement NOW!

http://www.vegetablecruelty.com/

robtegelberg
October 30th, 2006, 02:07 am
ts always about animal rights to you people, geez get a grip. The Hypocritical opinions that its okay to eat cows, chickens, and pigs, but oh please please don't hurt the poor dolphins, seals, dogs, and cats.

WHAT ABOUT THE POOR VEGETABLES??? HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN THOUGH TO THE POOR VEGETABLES?? TAKEN AGAINST THEIR WILL, LOCKED IN CAGES, PUT ON DISPLAY UNDER BRIGHT LIGHTS ...................

Join the Vegetable Rights Militant Movement NOW!


PREACH ON BROTHER:agree: :agree:

Thats always my comment to vegetarians when they lament how cruel hunting is... just gotta laugh it off:redneck :redneck :redneck

mabb
October 30th, 2006, 09:33 am
Are dolphins endangered? Whales are, but the Japanese continue to kill them (likewise certain other 'peoples' much closer to home).
Life is life: in the natural order of things, some die that others live. Don't expect your dog to be a vegetarian any more than a tiger is. People are omnivores. That is an indisputable scientific fact. Cultural differences may cause offense, but they are cultural - not moral. Some societies eat bugs: do you want a plate full of meal worms?

There are only two problems with killing any given animal: 1). if it is endangered you are risking wiping it out completely; 2). if you're just killing it for sport (i.e. not going to make use of the meat & hide) you're just being a silly, cruel bastard.

Remember: what goes around comes around. You may be able to shoot an elephant, but in the end it may be some microbe that does you in.

Me, I support the right to arm bears. :)

fookeneh
October 30th, 2006, 01:25 pm
22 cal bullets are dirt cheap. I'm sure they could figure out how to kill something quicker. Poor people from poor villages in Japan , and Newfies , are probably too ignorant and hungry to figure that out.

CamM
October 30th, 2006, 02:01 pm
Different cultures have different beliefs. That's what it comes down to. We see things like the dolfin video, and we're offended. In other parts of the world, things that are normal here would disgust people - like having a pet rat, or dog for that matter. Did you know that in the middle east dogs are feared and RARELY kept as pets? And people are still stoned to death? I can't remember the reason, but a little while ago it was in the news about a girl being sentenced to stoning. In the west we see ourselves as the moral police, but we really need to take a look at home first. Let he in the glass house cast the first stone.
And the homeless thing - Do you really think that someone without a mental issue would choose to be homeless? These people, for the most part, have gotten themselves into situations that it is beyond their capability to get themselves out of. And to those of you who say "get a job" Take away your resources to type a resume, bathe, wash your clothes, and lets not forget you don't have a phone number for them to call you, or an address. How many people do you think would even interview you, never mind hire you? I work downtown and there are people who try to contribute to society. There is a guy in Gastown who helps people find parking spots - if there is time left on a meter he will tell you so you can save a few cents, he'll direct people while they are backing out of parking spots, that sort of thing. He works for the little bit of money he gets. Some people try.

fookeneh
October 30th, 2006, 03:30 pm
:agree: ^^

'95XJ
October 30th, 2006, 05:32 pm
Dan,

your sarcastic comments always puts a smile on my face :)

cambo
November 1st, 2006, 05:11 am
have you tried it? it actually tastes great!

gavman
November 1st, 2006, 06:56 am
Different cultures have different beliefs. That's what it comes down to. We see things like the dolfin video, and we're offended. In other parts of the world, things that are normal here would disgust people - like having a pet rat, or dog for that matter. Did you know that in the middle east dogs are feared and RARELY kept as pets? And people are still stoned to death? I can't remember the reason, but a little while ago it was in the news about a girl being sentenced to stoning. In the west we see ourselves as the moral police, but we really need to take a look at home first. Let he in the glass house cast the first stone.
And the homeless thing - Do you really think that someone without a mental issue would choose to be homeless? These people, for the most part, have gotten themselves into situations that it is beyond their capability to get themselves out of. And to those of you who say "get a job" Take away your resources to type a resume, bathe, wash your clothes, and lets not forget you don't have a phone number for them to call you, or an address. How many people do you think would even interview you, never mind hire you? I work downtown and there are people who try to contribute to society. There is a guy in Gastown who helps people find parking spots - if there is time left on a meter he will tell you so you can save a few cents, he'll direct people while they are backing out of parking spots, that sort of thing. He works for the little bit of money he gets. Some people try.


Hey regarding the guy in Gastown, i know him casually from working in the area, name starts with an "S", Anwyways i will be talking to him in a few weeks re a temporary job while i work in the area.
Job description; Spend about eight hours a day watching work vehicles in a parking lot to prevent break-ins to said vehicles by those that would do such things.
I will be curious to see if he is interested....

lars
November 2nd, 2006, 01:28 pm
I agree that we should at least try to kill animals in a humane manner.

And I'm glad to see that this thread did not generate into the racist rant that it threatened to near the beginning.

...lars

Kellykins
November 2nd, 2006, 01:29 pm
And I'm glad to see that this thread did not generate into the racist rant that it threatened to near the beginning.


I'm shocked, too!

lars
November 2nd, 2006, 01:30 pm
And people are still stoned to death? I can't remember the reason, but a little while ago it was in the news about a girl being sentenced to stoning.

Was that the case where she was sentenced to stoning for adultery?

...lars

Bronco Boy
November 2nd, 2006, 02:48 pm
And I'm glad to see that this thread did not generate into the racist rant that it threatened to near the beginning.
I new there was some civilization here somewhere.
http://www3.telus.net/cbradley/Smileys/chili.gif

CamM
November 2nd, 2006, 10:00 pm
Was that the case where she was sentenced to stoning for adultery?

...lars

That seems to ring a bell, yeah.

CamM
November 2nd, 2006, 10:02 pm
Hey regarding the guy in Gastown, i know him casually from working in the area, name starts with an "S", Anwyways i will be talking to him in a few weeks re a temporary job while i work in the area.
Job description; Spend about eight hours a day watching work vehicles in a parking lot to prevent break-ins to said vehicles by those that would do such things.
I will be curious to see if he is interested....

Good on you! Be a part of the solution, instead of a part of the problem.

cambo
November 4th, 2006, 02:25 am
i love my brothers pin he wears on his lapel," if animal rights activists are so concerned about animals, why are they eating all their food?" go ted nugent !!

Kellykins
November 4th, 2006, 02:46 am
I love his show "Wanted: Ted or Alive". I agree with so many of his views... And he's pretty damn intellectual, too.

toynado
November 4th, 2006, 08:26 am
i love my brothers pin he wears on his lapel," if animal rights activists are so concerned about animals, why are they eating all their food?" go ted nugent !!


Thats awsome!

here is another one "there is a place for all gods creatures, right next to the potatoes"

belmont mild
November 6th, 2006, 10:13 pm
well not to slag anyone (racist) in this thread but its a sad look on whats happening on this earth... On all levels

fookeneh
November 7th, 2006, 02:26 am
Well at least Saddam is going to hang. It would be magnificent if they would tie Bush to the same rope.

Kellykins
November 7th, 2006, 05:55 am
Well at least Saddam is going to hang. It would be magnificent if they would tie Bush to the same rope.

How would appeals work in this sort of court? Are they allowed appeals like we are in Can and the US? Cuz if so, could be a looooooong while before we see a hangin' (if there's one at all).

belmont mild
November 7th, 2006, 08:51 pm
Well at least Saddam is going to hang. It would be magnificent if they would tie Bush to the same rope.


ooooooooooooooooooooooooh my:whiteflag:

whitetrashxj
November 8th, 2006, 12:26 am
let em hang, he deserves everything he gets, ive had cousins in the army die out there because of this,

fookeneh
November 8th, 2006, 02:37 am
let em hang, he deserves everything he gets, ive had cousins in the army die out there because of this,
Bush or Saddam? I say they both hang. Saddam is very smooth, but he is also a murdering savage . Bush is a dumb f u c k , and his invasion cost 25000 + dead iraqies and 3000 dead soldiers, not to mention the economy gone for s h i t .

Kellykins
November 8th, 2006, 04:17 am
Bush or Saddam?

Ha ha... If I supported the death penalty I'd totally agree.

brian468
November 8th, 2006, 06:13 am
the prime minister is saying saddam will be swingin before the year is out.

fookeneh
November 8th, 2006, 11:46 am
Ha ha... If I supported the death penalty I'd totally agree.
In some cases, people are hardwired and naturally equipped to earn the death penalty. It comes down to costing way to much to keep them alive. In alot of cases, doing life in an institution is worse, so the perp ends up doing himself in.